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Former President Donald Trump was indicted for an unprecedented third time on August 1, adding another set of serious federal charges to the mounting legal issues he faces.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I know this is a common sentiment amongst a lot of people, but the reality is he will never see prison time before he dies of old age. He will do everything in his power to draw it out and when he can’t he will flee the country

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was "common knowledge" that he wouldn't ever be charged too. The Senate and Mike Pence were pissed at him because he made them look weak. That's why no one is really defending him right now. He has so many charges that people are going to abandon him just so they don't have to answer questions about the cases.

Remember the OJ trial? This is the former president in three courtrooms (and counting!). It's going to make him look so guilty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't think anyone ever cared about him in the GOP, they used him as a tool, a pawn to get the presidency; he got it but still fucked it, and now they have not use for him anymore. DeSantis may be the next one. That's my highly intellectual political analysis. Emphasis on "high".

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

dies of old age

That could be tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well one can hope I suppose, hope is still free, lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Big Papa Putin may not be in a position to offer him safe harbor for very much longer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Flee the country, my left asshole. Wtf are you on about? He’s charged under the espionage act.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Problem is, he's losing a lot of that power now. He doesn't have many friends in high places these days, even the supreme court has done things to rule against him. I don't doubt he'll try to draw it out, but ultimately it's not up to him anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder though, everyone keep saying no prison because of the SS, ex-president and all, but what mecanism would actually prevent the court from going there? Like, if the judge goes for prison or death penalty, what is gonna happen exactly? What branch of the government, and who exactly would block it, assuming the judge gives no fucks?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not possible for him to receive the death penalty for these charges, the max is 20 years per count. On top of that, the fed doesn't have the death penalty anymore, as far as I understand.

That being said, it is very possible he will go to prison in some fashion. Of course he will never be with the gen pop, but just because he has an SS detail doesn't mean he can't go to prison. Also, it could be possible to strip him of the detail, but I'm pretty sure that will be figured out if the time comes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isn't that possible if he's judged responsible of the deaths on Jan6?

*They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. *

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

While that may be the explicit language for the charge, the feds don't really tend to execute people in the modern post-Gregg era, with a notable exception: Donald Trump restarted executions from the feds when he took office. So, slight correction to my OP. I guess it would be possible, but I highly doubt the US Government would do something as drastic as executing a previous president.

On a personal level here, I am 100% against the death penalty. Even for fucks like this. What's worse, death, or living your final years in a concrete box and dying there instead? I'd much rather people like him get lost in their own thoughts.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

His Secret Service detail won't allow that to happen.