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[–] [email protected] 73 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I have a feeling they aired that to startle the base into ignoring all of the fuckery surrounding trump and voting for him out of fear. I somehow doubt the numbers are accurate or even from a conducted poll. I may be wrong but I figure if it's on Fox, and it's political, it's probably intentional bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've got a family member who was a LIFETIME Republican, he now shocked everyone by saying he won't be voting for Trump no matter what. And if it looks like Trump could win he would vote for Biden.

I'm sure he isn't alone in these feelings, and Fox want to rile up their voters.

It was hilarious hearing another family member being shocked and arguing why Trump is the only reasonable vote. When my newly never trump family member kept rebuking every argument, they finally said, "well you sure have an answer for everything, don't you?" I'm sitting there just thinking, yea no shit, wonder why that is....

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago

Yeah the answer is trump is a lying crook.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't know your circumstances, but if you'd said that out loud you might have had 3 not-Trump votes in your family.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I definitely would not have, but it would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Everything conservatives do is out of fear, greed, or hate.

Reminder that a national popularity poll means jack-shit with the Electoral College. Vote like your democracy depends on it...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I may be wrong but I figure if it’s on Fox

Oddly enough, polling is the one area where Fox News isn't a complete shit show. 538 has consistently rated them highly throughout the years. In this case, the poll was run by Beacon Research/Shaw & Co. 538's pollster ratings have them at #15, with a 2.8 rating out of 3.0. While it's proper to be skeptical of anything with the Fox name attached, this is one of those areas where you can accept the poll at face value. That said, it's still June and polls this far out are wildly bad at predicting the final outcome. They are better as a barometer of current sentiment and may help candidates to calibrate their messaging and campaigns as we get closer to the election. Also, a 1-2 point "lead" is almost certainly within the margin of error. So, this poll is really saying "it's a dead heat" and drawing anything more of a conclusion is more of a rorschach test than anything.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ive read that Fox News polls are actually one of the few things legit from them. It certainly has a right wing slant in who they ask, but they don't falsify numbers. It's generally believed to be reliable.

Unlike everything else on Fox.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

if they're saying trump is losing; i'll believe them since he's their guy.

the same polls put him ahead of biden before the convictions and i'm surprised that it worked; i guess the old dictator trick of getting your political opponents convicted of crimes to discredit them still works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

You can only psyop so far. Eventually they don't bother showing up to vote for a loser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I hate that we are so jaded to this shit that the thought of them doing this isn't weird.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

I bet they even told him the plan and he forgot.