this post was submitted on 18 Jun 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.
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ALLIES
• r/ACAB
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INFO
• A demonstrator's guide to understanding riot munitions
• Cops aren't supposed to be smart
• Killings by law enforcement in Canada
• Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom
• Killings by law enforcement in the United States
• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
• When the police knock on your door
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ORGANIZATIONS
• NAACP
• National Police Accountability Project
• Vera: Ending Mass Incarceration
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I left before you did my dude. I've been here since before the exodus, what's my .ml acct in my bio at by now, 2yr? Get good.
It says 3 years on Jerboa.
Ayy, thanks lol.
Weird flex. Also, I was implying that the same people that would miss your point on Reddit and start banging on the gun issue are the same people doing it here. Once you starting waving your imaginary membership join date to a website in my face like a dick measuring contest I realized you are just another Redditor too.
Lol you imply I'm "a redditor," then when I say "I've been here and off reddit longer than you," which you made applicable by starting said dick measuring contest, you come up with this shit? Try harder I guess, lol.
Brother, are you fucking dense? Im in total agreement with your original sentiment and comment. I saw you were getting harped on for not having an absolute anti gun stance and jokingly implied that this place is just like Reddit by asking and asked how you were liking this new fresh take here on totally not Reddit and you started in on me about your join date. I couldn’t give two fucks about your Reddit or lemmy join date. You may have convinced me that some people are in fact too stupid to own a firearm.
Didn't read that way, and the whole "being a fucking asshole" shtick hasn't been helping your case. If it was truly a misunderstanding it's one you could have avoided by being more clear then "how are you liking reddit" or whatever useless question you asked me to "show support" or some such nonsense, and secondly when you identified a possible misunderstanding you could have avoided further conflict by not doubling down and being an asshole again but "for real" this time, simply because I replied in kind to what I clearly thought was you being an asshole in the first place.
You're not the mega genius you think you are, you caused this issue with your inarticulacy at best. There's frankly no need for us to speak further, and I will decline to do so after this last comment. Good day.
K “get good” or whatever…