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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

guns are for vulnerable people who want to ensure their own safety.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nice theory, but owning a gun makes you less safe, not more. You are way more likely to be hurt by your own gun than successfully using it to defend yourself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

you don't know my circumstances or anyone else's.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It has nothing to do with circumstances, it’s plain statistics. Look up the numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

your statistics don't know who i live with, who lives next door, or how corrupt my government is. and, as samuel clemons said, there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

What is it with Americans that they seem so be so afraid all the time. You see danger everywhere. Life now is safer than it has ever been in the history of humanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

there you go again, assuming things you don't know about me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So enlighten me.

How many people do you need to kill in self defence, in an average week?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

none so far, and id like to keep it that way, but there is no reason i or anyone else should become a victim for a lack of self defense tools.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

there are more slaves now than ever in history. there are more prisoners, more prisons, more cartels, more police (but i repeat myself). i won't tell you how you may keep yourself safe. please return the courtesy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

All of those things are because there are way more humans today than ever in absolute numbers. The percentage of people who die a violent death has never been as low as it is now, and that includes people dying in war.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

that's cold comfort for slaves

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I’m not sure how it’s relevant to this discussion. Are you some kind of vigilante who needs a gun to free slaves?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

at this point i'm making due advocating that would-be slaves aren't legally prohibited the tools they need to protect themselves.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You seriously think that the cause of modern day slavery is lack of guns?

Maybe you should call the UN and let them know you figured out the solution to the slavery problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You seriously think that the cause of modern day slavery is lack of guns?

that's not what i said. it's a bad faith argument: a strawman.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Then what are you trying to say? I’m still not seeing how you bringing up slavery is at all relevant to the discussion.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

it's one of the very real dangers people face. and firearms are one of the tools they may use to defend themselves from it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That’s an extremely simplistic view of a very complicated problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

this is a thought terminating cliche

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s true though.

There are many forms of modern day slavery and the vast majority is not due to an inability of the enslaved people to exert violence onto their slavers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

being armed enables vulnerable people to prevent their exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

No it doesn’t. All it will do is get them into an even shittier situation.

Take for example debt bondage in India. Give a person in debt bondage a gun, what should they do with it, according to you?