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Baldur's Gate 3

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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Interesting, I didn't even know Tencent was involved, was their influence very visible?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

The amount of money that was dropped on the making of the game is a clue but unpopular opinion? Who's a fan of tencent anyway?
For those who don't have the context Tencent is a huge Chinese company that has many investments in games. They are the type that plays it silently usually invest and they do let the people do their thing then take their share. But the problem is two fold first of all you cannot start saying much abou the ccp tencent wouldn't send you to jail but would pull the plung of the funding. Secondly any client info that ends in Tencent hands is potentially viewable by the ccp. There's no need of a Snowden to tell you that, the government made it law so if you buy the game your data goes to China.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

but unpopular opinion?

I don't think Tencent's involvement is common knowledge among BG3 players. It's hard to have an opinion about something you're unaware of.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My thing about china getting my data is 'so what?' I live in the United States. Every major corporation will sell my data to the government, and no warrant is necessary. The fuck is China going to do to me? Send some of their secret police to my house? Fucking TIGHT. I can tell them to fuck off and eat my ass.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Shouldn't they eat your ass first and then fuck off?

Every major corporation will sell my data to the government

And also to China. I don't trust Tencent any more or less than I trust Ubisoft or 2K

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That's a good point, too; without an electronic bill of rights, what's stopping them?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Yea you can tell them that but the more china as on you and other citizen of where you live the better they can make the propaganda and influence election and other fun thing like that sure they can do it without all the data but it will be less efficient

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They don't have a controlling share on Larian, but they don't own an insignificant amount of it. I wouldn't say it is noticeable. Doesn't have MTX, which I'm sure they would've loved.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't Larian independent?

Edit: Official statement on shareholders (near the end of the video)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's a situation similar to Epic. The controlling shares are in the hands of the CEO, Swen Vincke in this case. But at least Tencent only owns 30% of Larian, which is better than 49% of Epic, even if the end result is effectively no different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This article corroborates the statement that Tencent owns 30% of Larian, but they do not have voting rights. Swen Vincke and his wife control the direction of the company with their combined 70%.

I realized I was actually slightly off base on the Epic share numbers, where Tencent owns slightly less than the 49% I had initially stated. This article claims the number at 40% total capital, which works out to 48.4% issued shares. However, CEO Tim Sweeny remains the majority shareholder of the company, and Epic has apparently stated that Tencent does not have any involvement with the way they run their business (at least as of when this article was written in 2019, I don't know if things are different now but I have not heard as such.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago