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True.. However it does appear to be slowing a bit for both the US and Canada
https://blog.bham.ac.uk/cityredi/redi-updates-how-does-the-cost-of-living-crisis-compare-internationally/
https://ourworldindata.org/a-history-of-global-living-conditions
There is far less poverty in the world today than in the past.
Probably true, but we also appear to be on the edge of a massive move away from fossil fuels to renewables with the cost of solar dropping, grid level battery systems replacing old coal / natural gas peaker plants etc and the move is no longer just about the "environment" these technologies are in some ways superior or cheaper as well which will accelerate adoption
And until the relationship between cost of living and wages reverses, not just slows down, we're simply talking about things getting worse less quickly, not getting better
Generally true, and this is largely from developing nations starting to have a growing middle class. Unfortunately, all signs point towards that middle class inevitably being consumed by the owner class, as we have watched and are watching the tail end of in the west.
Not sure what that has to do with the famines being caused by climate change though, especially as they are rapidly getting worse. Look at what's happening currently in Madagascar. This is at a global temperature increase well below where we thought these things would start happening. That's not even considering that all this is happening while Europe's biggest breadbasket is currently the home of the 2nd worst war since WW2.
While true, we are still accelerating our carbon production. Like the CoL/Wage thing, unless we see an outright drastic reversal, we are simply talking about things getting worse less quickly, not getting better. This isn't an issue we can simply continue saying "oh science will just figure it out" on. We've been saying that since at least the 60s. Unless we get sweeping, drastic action from multiple large governments, and we get it very soon, nothing is going to change.
That's also assuming we are actually "on the edge of a massive move away from fossil fuels to renewables". We've been "on the edge" of that for seemingly forever now.
None of this even touches on the overt slide towards far right authoritarianism half the world seems to have taken.
Look, I legitimately try my best to stay optimistic about the future, but it is ridiculously naive to say the future looks brighter today than at the turn of the millennium.