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A list of 10 not so influential western politicians. Ok, you said “pretty much all”, I am waiting for at least 20. I’ll give you Trump and Sunak.

Not really sure what those backgrounds are supposed to signify in this context. The original point, in case you missed it, was that a former high level US official openly stated that this is a proxy war.

My point: Your source was an ambassador in an unproblematic nice to live in country, just as a thank you from his President. The work was done by the 1st Attaché. No politician, no influence. Crap as a source.

That's not how this works, what he says obviously carries weight given his status, and most importantly what he said is the truth. If you're trying to claim that the former US ambassador doesn't know what he's talking about, then surely academics such as John Mearsheimer and Noam Chomsky do. They happen to agree with him.

It’s a war by Russia against Ukraine, where Ukraine gets help from NATO and other countries. And of course it’s costly, but you are getting off course. Which seems to be systemic to your argumentation.

That's a false narrative and I've provided you lots of sources explaining why in detail. Please spend the time to educate yourself on the subject.

Either you don’t know your history or you want to go off the topic again. Budapest is not Minsk, and both treaties are not the same.

Perhaps you're not aware of what the Minsk agreements are?

Russia broke that treaty 20 years later with the invasion of Crimea. The Minsk Protocol was trying to calm down the tensions resulting from that breach of contract. Nowhere in the Minsk Protocol is a clause that forbids Ukraine to arm. Which cluses were broken by NATO or Ukraine? The text is online.

Very convenient of you to forget that prior to annexation of Crimea, the west sponsored a coup against a democratically elected government in Ukraine after which point a civil war started.

Nowhere in the Minsk Protocol is a clause that forbids Ukraine to arm. Which cluses were broken by NATO or Ukraine? The text is online.

The part where Ukraine was committing war crimes against the civilian population of Donbas which western outlets such as CNN openly reported on https://twitter.com/paulius60/status/1611148483859255296

I’ll ignore the rest about NATO and warnings and so on. You are just flooding the zone because you want to distract from the fact that you are defending the invasion of an independent country by Russia.

Ah yes, you'll ignore all the history and the context for the war. That's how we know that you're not actually arguing in good faith here. Also, I'm not defending anything here. What I'm doing is explaining why the war happened and the role NATO played in creating the situation that led to the conflict.