this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2024
387 points (92.3% liked)

News

23259 readers
3720 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

At least 274 Palestinians were killed and 698 wounded in Israeli strikes on the Nuseirat refugee camp in central Gaza, Gaza’s health ministry said on Sunday. The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire during the daytime operation.

The EU’s top diplomat, Josep Borrell, called it a “massacre”, while the UN’s aid chief described in graphic detail scenes of “shredded bodies on the ground”.

“Nuseirat refugee camp is the epicentre of the seismic trauma that civilians in Gaza continue to suffer,” Martin Griffiths said in a post on X, calling for a ceasefire and the release of all hostages.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The Israeli military said its forces came under heavy fire during the daytime operation.

Uh huh. Then why aren't there almost 1000 Israeli military dead and injured instead of almost 1000 Palestinian dead and injured?

More lies again. As always.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

When did they come under fire? Before or after doing air strikes?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is a ridiculous take. They didn't come under heavy fire because they didn't take heavy losses? It's their very heavy response to the heavy fire that minimized their losses while taking a high toll on Palestinian civilians and militants.

Do you think the hostages were unguarded and free to leave at any time because Israel said otherwise?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, right... and Auschwitz wasn't a death camp - it was a pitched battle between a small group of heroic Nazis and overwhelming Jewish forces. Their clever use of Zyklon-B ensured the Nazi heroes didn't suffer heavy casualties.

/s for all the shitlibs that can't smell all the hasbara stinking up this community.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hamas fighters are like naked concentration camp victims going into the gas chamber. They just have toy guns. You can tell from the bright orange caps on the barrels.

/s for the completely delusional

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's really sad when hasbara goes off-script - I hope they paid you extra for the attempt, though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ridiculous take. I never said Israel was right or justified for the level of carnage they caused.

What is with the script that there are only victims on the Palestinian side? There were no gunmen, only unarmed civilians. The hostages were just visiting friends in Gaza and are demanding to be allowed to return. Who writes this stuff, and why do so many here seem to buy into it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Do you think that Israeli forces are indiscriminately bombing and shooting Palestinian civilians to the tune of almost 1000 killed or injured?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Indiscriminately? No. Without adequate or acceptable levels of discrimination? Absolutely.

That's not what I was responding to, though. I was responding to your writing that the Israelis lied about coming under heavy fire because they didn't take heavy losses. The IDF has been known to lie, but that doesn't make everything they say a lie. And your rationale for saying it was untrue makes no sense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It makes everything they say extremely untrustworthy.

So how many KIA do they have then?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

1 by the way.

But I dont understand why is it even a measure. You expected probably best commando unit in the world specifically trained for this type of rescues to get heavy losses?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Best in the world? A world that also has, (checks notes) SFOD, SEALs, SAS, and whatever the CIA is cooking these days.

All of whom would have taken more than one casualty in intense urban fighting. And have done so in the past. Something doesn't add up here.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I expect the "best commando unit" (your ~~propaganda~~ words) to have a lower death toll.

The fact one of them was killed means the fighting probably wasn't intense enough to warrant that level of violence.

Fuck Israel and their indiscriminate killing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just expect them to bring the hostages home safely and alive by all means necessary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So how do all those dead kids factor into that? Lmfao get out of here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Its sad indeed. But why oh why in the holy fuck are the hostages held in places with so many kids and civilians. Heck why oh why are there hostages at all??

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Oh we're just ignoring the destruction of all infrastructure, the starving and abuse that brought us here? Smfh 200 innocents is no mistake only fools would think that.

smfh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I'm completely ignorant of the situation

FTFY, would be shorter to type

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bombing of Nuseirat’s busy market area began soon after the raid started at around 11am (9am BST), turning the neighbourhood into “smoke and flames”, Muhannad Thabet, a 35-year-old resident, told AFP.

“People were screaming – young and old, women and men,” he said. “Everyone wanted to flee the place, but the bombing was intense and anyone who moved was at risk of being killed due to the heavy bombardment and gunfire.”

At least one wave of heavy airstrikes was launched to secure the passage of the three men, who had been held together. Argamani was rescued alone, from a separate location.

Not. Discriminate. Enough.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Yes. It's an unfortunate truth of military operations. But finding the enemy usually requires taking casualties. Not taking casualties and claiming you were under heavy fire gets the dirty eye. Cause nearly a thousand casualties and it demands a war crimes investigation.