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[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Was anyone else told/under the assumption this guy got run over? Wild.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I remember the video from the next day and a lot of people were run over. All of the acts of that part of history get conflated in memory. That's why it's good to have video and good to have professional historians.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

I don't have links, but at least from what I've heard, they were washing people down the drains afterward.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

https://youtu.be/s9A51jN19zw Biased, but has a lot of footage.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't have a link right now. I literally remember seeing it on the television on the nightly news in the United States.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That is definitely not true! The killing that did happen was in the streets surrounding Tiananmen Square. This is now the official USA position, and recently declassified diplomatic cables confirm that the initial reports were incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

How does that change things, exactly?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Only that while an atrocity clearly occurred, you're one of many with false memories about the event. It's a clear example of the propagation of a false narrative and it's okay to acknowledge that. People are literally swearing they saw footage which doesn't exist, and their response is "so what it I'm completely wrong, China is still bad". At the very least, that's interesting.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What false narrative?? I've never heard anyone claim that all the violence and killing happened only directly on the square, what a bizarre counter claim that changes nothing lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Really, I hear that all the time!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Don’t discount the 30 millions lives lost that day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I would like to see the video is you provide a link, later.