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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Me too. Years ago I dabbled with Debian and Gentoo. Ubuntu was just up and coming then.

Now I went from Mint to Fedora KDE to Fedora Silverblue (nuked my disk and removed windows)

Gnome took a day to get used to but loving the workflow once I warmed up to it. Can’t believe how polished and rock solid the whole system is.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Gnome when you first use it feels like a stupid system, then once it "clicks", you feel like the devs were goddamn geniuses for creating a workflow like it.

And yeah, the polish is nuts considering for a long time and assumption about FOSS was that all the apps are ugly and unpolished.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

then once it “clicks”, you feel like the devs were goddamn geniuses for creating a workflow like it.

... Unless you have ADHD. What differentiates it is that purely on the surface it looks kinda ADHD-friendly, until you go to that launcher or try to find a setting. That's better than with KDE (I like KDE, but can't use it), but worse than just using FVWM or WindowMaker.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I have ADHD. How is it worse? I find window managers interesting in theory but absolutely dreadful in actual use.

None are even close to feeling usable for anything other than showing off terminal windows

E: jfc, I obviously meant tiling window managers, since that's what you were talking about. I'm not advocating for desktops to have literally no ability to manage windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A window manager is part of what you use, unless you run one program in its dedicated X session or don't use X at all, or use Wayland, in which case you use a Wayland compositor.

If by "window manager" you mean only standalone window managers that are not part of KDE or Gnome - then just as usable as those that are.

If you mean that catching someone with a terminal emulator open disqualifies its author as a showoff - many of us actually do use CLI and TUI programs, and for that we need terminal emulators.

If you think that "window manager" means only tiling WMs from r/unixporn on Reddit - the choice is kinda bigger, there are a few hundreds of them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I obviously meant tiling window manager setups, like you described.

And no I didn't say using the terminal means you're a showoff, I have it open all throughout my workday.

I was saying that TWM setups are poor in terms of usability. The Gnome workflow is perfect for people with ADHD. I can't really think of anything better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

OK. FVWM is a stacking WM. Btw, TWM is too a specific stacking WM and not an abbreviation for tiling WMs, some people even use it.

I have used tiling WMs in the past, DWM and WMII were nice.

Still I've mentioned FVWM and maybe WindowMaker (answering from mobile, not sure), both are stacking WMs, so no, not as I've described.