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I went through all of this when I left the church. It's a terrifying thing to realize that many forms of Christianity operate as, and have morphed into, cults.
A religion is just a cult that's socially accepted, and vice versa.
I always heard it as "In a cult, a single, charismatic, mentally ill leader tells lies to people, and knows it's all a scam. In a religion, that person is dead."
Were you in the Jahova's Witnesses? A family friend was a former member, and she told us that the reason they come to your door and annoy you is intentional -- if the only experience they have outside fellow church-goers is people getting angry at them for their faith, it drives them more into it.
I was pentacostal, so rife with fundamentalism, ie: women weren't supposed to be leaders, anti-abortion, lazy people were evil, etc etc.
Oh wow, penticost's are brutal, my condolences.
Yep, they lean heavily into persecution claims and this sort of experience fuels it. Ironic too because they were persecuted in Nazi Germany, but they turn around and continue that persecution against LGBTQ+ individuals (who were in the same boat).
Source: grew up JW, left after some... realizations
I've also heard cases where someone clearly states they aren't interested in the religious spiel but still willing to engage with them about other things and them willing to go along with it. Figured it was more of a long con thing, like be friendly now and maybe in a few weeks they'll be more open to joining the cult, but maybe it's just them feeling starved for positive human interaction that isn't just about the cult.
That is definitely in there, but that is a tiny, tiny portion of people vs. the overarching goal of making you feel like your only 'home' is with the cult (in this case JW's)
You may be surprised to learn the 'resurrection' metaphor is based on one's attempt to leave the essenic cult after his brother was killed for their cause, being 'dead to them' and his peers and family ordered to shun him, and rejoining 3 days later due to the pain of excommunication. It speaks of loss, of a crisis of faith, of brutal separation at a time of grief and pain, and ultimately rejoining the family he knows; maybe out of sheer loneliness and heartache.
It sounds more similar than you think!
Where's that from?