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Why do you make this a white vs not white issue?
Atlanta is full of black millionaires and their school children still go hungry.
It's not a problem with whites, it's a problem with the rich.
You're just a common racist.
Because that's what the intention is.
Republicans (post civil rights, Dixiecrats before that) specifically target non-white communities with laws designed to hurt them. They can't be as explicit about it as they once were, so they have to find proxy targets. Instead of just jailing blacks, we'll over-enforce drug laws in certain communities. Instead of saying we're trying to starve black families, we'll use 'welfare mothers' as a proxy. The goal is still the same as it was for all of US history - to win votes from whites by promising to take from non-whites. School vouchers. Stop and frisk. Zero tolerance approaches. Gang enforcement units.
But using proxies instead of specifically targeting leads to some collateral emiseration. Luckily, white communities have vastly more intergenerational and communal wealth, so those crafting the laws know that white communities will be more resilient to the kind of damage they intend to inflict.
Crowdfunding success is heavily racialized. It strongly favours people with more wealth in their extended community or identity group. Poverty is incredibly racialized in the US, especially at the communal rather than individual level.
I certainly agree that rich people enjoy watching all the poors suffer, but here in the US there's still a large demographic beyond just the rich that feel safer when black and brown people are disproportionately targeted for misery.
As productive as this conversation has ever been.
Yes, rich people are more likely to crowdfund their rich friends.
Yes, an century ago America was deeply racist against freed slaves and their children.
My blonde haired blue eyed ass grew up in Chicago regularly having those PBJ cracker rations the nurse had for lunch because my family was dirt poor and getting my ass kicked by my majority black classmates because of the rhetoric people like you spread.
You see your hardships, can't look past the color of your skin, and project.
Again, it's not a race issue, it's a financial class issue.
I don't see how my 'hardships' as a middle class white australian-american who moved to the US come into it. I'm describing how I observe the US to work.
White people are just more likely to be successful in their crowdfunding, even when poor.
I'm not arguing that there are no poor white people, that's silly. My wife's dad's grew up shoeless and white in rural illinois. The existence of poor white people doesn't disprove the fact non white people are a greater target for deliberate impoverishment.
I'm not deaf to class-based analysis. But this is the US. You just can't talk about class without also talking about how racialized poverty is in most of the country. Crowdfunding is one of the many facits of our society that very clearly reflects that.
Oh, so you are just some rando with no business in the conversation throwing muck at the wall.
Gotcha.
Makes it worse that you are spreading that kind of rhetoric.
You seem to feel like you're being attacked by a description of how some people suffer. It doesn't imply that others don't.
Nah, just irritated about an Aussie trying to stir up racial conflict in America with bullshit rhetoric.
You know what the difference between a million and a billion dollars is?
About a billion dollars.
Not to mention, your comment kinda glosses over the systemic racism that this country is built on.
35 percent of billionaires are not white.
492 billionaires exist.
It's 2024.
Rich vs poor is a larger issue that white vs not white.
It's not 1700 when all the rich were British, or 1850 when all the rich were white.
All this rhetoric is outdated.
If you want to talk about oppression, talk about the CEO of Infosys and how he has crippled India and a very large stake in global technology.
How about both problems are still an issue?
Billionaires shouldn't exist. All billionaires are bad.
And the US is still a racially divided country because we can't get our shit together due to systemic racist issues that are still here.