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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is such a weird gotcha, because I don't know a single person who denounces the Israel's genocidal behavior who isn't also denouncing America's genocidal behavior. Like, yeah, killing innocent people is bad; let's keep this bandwagon going and overthrow all genocidal governments, please!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

America's killing of civlians during the Iraq war was absolutely a horrible atrocity, but it wasn't genocide. Words have meaning.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

America's been around a lot longer than the beginning of the Iraq war. We nearly eradicated the Native Americans to gain their land, we've placed illegitimate governments in Honduras and Guatemala, nearly eradicating the Mayan population for the sake of our own economic exploitation of the area, and so on. And honestly, most people backed the Iraq war specifically because they hated middle eastern people, so I don't think calling it a genocide would be much of a stretch; if the area's population were small enough to easily suppress the way the Mayans were, we'd have probably just focused on that strategy again in order to secure the cheap oil we were after.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Comment chain started with this:

Also USA killed this many civilians in Iraq per year, during the entire duration of the war.

I was just staying on topic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

My comment was in response to a comment about American colonialism and the genocide that came along with it, which is why I addressed it. Topics often change throughout the course of a conversation, and the same can happen in a comment thread.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Can count Vietnam, north Korean too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Still not sure why you think they are related othet than people were killed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The comment chain started with:

Also USA killed this many civilians in Iraq per year, during the entire duration of the war.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So just false equivalent to compare number of deaths to make a genocide not look like a genocide?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Sorry, are you saying the Iraq war was a genocide?

The US absolutely commited genocide against Native Americans. How people and their cultures are deatroyed matters.