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I been saying it for years. Cut a self-identified libertarian and you will find a Republican who groked on that all the cute girls he is interested in aren't going to date him unless he lies about what he believes.
Here is some advice: if you are ashamed about what you believe consider changing it.
Not a cute girl, but a rather plain woman so I get the memos, and generally we're not a big fan of libertarians either. There are some outliers but yeah, the ruse was not super effective.
[on a date]
Her: Huh, so Libertarians think laws about pornography should be relaxed? What kind of porn exactly?
Him: ...
Her: What kind of porn, exactly?
Him: Well--
Her: I'm just kidding, I called a Lyft as soon as you said you were a Libertarian.
An argument can easily be made that CSAM should be made illegal, as it exploits minors, who are generally considered a protected class. A minor is not able to give consent -- being able to give consent is core to the philosophy of libertarianism.
Strange that women would be against a group of people who
Are you telling me you are not looking forward to the era where you have to stay married to a man who beats you because if you leave or even call the cops it will mean utter ruin for you and your children? Children who won't be able to get free schooling or even discounted food. And of course your employer will be able to sexually harass you as much as they would like since it isn't technically a violation of the NAP but even if it were you won't report him because you really need this job. Why wouldn't women like to return to the 1850s?
I like to make fun of libertarians as much as the next guy, but this is not a common position of theirs and it doesn't check out with the basic tenets of libertarianism, or diet anarchy as I like to call it. Their positions are usually more along the lines of "abortion should be legal, but the government shouldn't be paying for it." Which I strongly disagree with because I can do very basic math, but I think it's a distinction between libertarians and republicans because you would have a different approach in trying to address their stance. I can at least work with someone who thinks they should be available but not free, I will not try to find common ground with someone who thinks they should be restricted, there's absolutely no room for "proudly ignorant but otherwise innocent" in the latter, they're just ghouls who should have been aborted.
The Libertarian Party website as well as statements from Ron Paul is where I got this. I don't care what some random person 209 years ago said.
The libertarian party website says in multiple locations that they support the right to abortion as an individual matter.
Wasn't the case the last time I looked. Fine, cool they updated. I was wrong and I am glad you corrected me.
Abortion is actually a contentious issue among libertarians.
Correct. One has the right to choose with whom they associate, and the right to choose how they use their speech.
I would argue that libertarianism, in general, is not mutually exclusive to social programs.
This one I'm actually not sure about. I have not made any solid decision on the matter. That being said, I will say that the majority of libertarians would oppose it in favor of private schooling.
I have absolutey no idea what you are talking about here. Everything that you just said is not libertarian. Furthermore, your point about the NAP is completely incorrect -- sexual harrassment is, without any doubt, an agression.
Why? What is so objectionable about resisting authoritarian oppression? What is so objectionable about the belief that we should maximise, to the best of our ability, the freedoms of all individuals?
You can't generalize this argument to all libertarians. This argument is founded upon a faulty generalization.