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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

haven't all UI changes in most product made things worse lately? The "2010s generation" of software solutions has been growing up on investment rather than profit for a long time and we've experienced a weird decade in which getting users was more important than getting money from them. Now we're seeing the other side in which squeezing profit form each user is more important than retention. All solutions are getting crappier because they not meant evolved for their intended purpose anymore.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's understandably like this, though. The way to quickly iterate on features that we do with modern agile development is much harder to do if you start off with a payment model right off the bat. You won't retain as many users because they are paying for something unknown just like the Early Access shit we have in the games industry. And investors are easier to get if you already have many users.

But indeed, once you get investors, that's when the enshittification starts, I believe. And once you go public as a company, then it's nothing but free-fall into an endless shit pit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I disagree, this has nothing to do with software development models, It's all about purpose. If your website must start making money quickly, then you can be sure it will have a payment model regardless of how things are developed. Social media business (and others) translated user growth into investment models: you give us this much money at this "completely made up valuation" and we'll use it to grow our user-base by this much.

This was possible because interest rates have been very low for the most of the 2010s. This meant that investors would be losing money if they held on to it so they just threw it at "the new tech" hoping something would stick. In the past few years, inflation has driven the interest rates very high and it means that money is not cheap anymore so all these businesses now have to transition to a money making model. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Right, but the reason why you employ an agile software development model in the first place is because you want to make money fast. The slow waterfall development models don't really lend themselves to fast bucks, do they.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The project management approach does not dictate the feature priority. The business dictates the priority. Project management is just a tool

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The project management approach does not dictate the feature priority.

No, but it does affect development speed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

what relevance would that have over the time span discussed here?

And no, whatever you read about agile, the development speed comes down to people not to procedure. That's true even if we disregard the fact that very few companies claiming to use agile actually understand what agile is

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well you seem very sure of yourself so everything you say must be correct. Whatever I read is false, whatever I've experienced myself is false, gonna take this dude's word for it. ✔️

Agile is of course a tool, and you use it to achieve your goals. And of course it comes down to the people using it. Just like a hammer is useless to a centipede. I'm just saying, I'm comparing agile to waterfall as the only changing variable factor.

Like how deep can you nitpick this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you're attributing a state of fact to a cause that has nothing to do with it. I'm not nitpicking, i'm pointing out a fallacy: the effect doesn't prove the cause, it only works the other way around

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not attributing it as a sole factor, like I said. Not a sole factor. Not a sole factor. I hope it sinks in now. Not a sole factor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, a contributing factor for sure. Just like whatever company produced the pencils used by Einstein was a contributing factor to the theory of relativity. Not a sole factor. No, not a sole factor but a factor. Yes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't think it's that insignificant of a factor but you'll believe what you believe and I'll believe what I believe. 👍 Not an issue. 🙂