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Yeah mask off.
To all the people supporting genocidal actions, we do no give a fuck what you think.
When you decide that you are not ok with sending more bombs to continue killing children then we can talk.
Until then I hope you all experience exactly what you want other people to.
So when members of Hamas, the current representative government of Gaza, talk about the genocide of the Jews, you say...?
Me, personally, I say that wishing democide on a population is fucking horrendous regardless of what that population supports, but I understand you tankies adore bloodshed more than I do.
I have said before and I will say again, they decided to launch attacks into civilian occupied areas without consideration.
The Israelis could have built a secure area with the help of the us military. Y’know the best of the best of logistics.
They could have built a base covered in camera and with food, water, power, and medical care.
It would have shown the whole world that they were actually only after Hamas.
Shit I was on Israel’s side in the beginning of this.
There is absolutely no justification for what hummus did, they killed and kidnapped innocent children.
They could have returned them for free at the first opportunity, instead they used them as bargains chips.
Instead neither side cares about the civilians as anything more than pawns.
So fuck them both, it’s really hard for me to care when the first sf or hummus has their people killed.
They are both pieces of shit who only care about land and power.
Also, you still don’t know what tankie means
Then by your own logic, you should be wishing on them the same thing you wished on America - for their countries to burn.
I literally defined it earlier in the thread.
And yet you keep trying to call the person advocating against military force as one.
No, you're 'just' saying that the murder of millions of Americans is okay because most have opinions on foreign policy that aren't aligned with your's. Much better!
~~Also, in this comment thread, I haven't called you a tankie.~~ Apparently I did when you called for America to burn for the sin of wrongthink.
I have very clearly said multiple times in the past that hummus are a bunch of tunnel rats whose extinction won’t bother me in the slightest, same for the IDF, maybe one day we will be able to respect Israel again, but they have managed to turn my default view of Israelis from neutral to negative.
Does that justify calling for Israel to burn?
Me, personally, I am a supporter of military force in select circumstances. I would love it if there was the political will to impose a no-fly zone over Gaza, IDF casualties be damned.
But I still wouldn't call for Israel to burn, no, not even knowing that Gazan genocide is still widely popular in the country. Not just as a matter of ignorant and indirect support, as in the US, but as a matter of direct and intimately understood support.
Likewise, calling for America to burn because a majority of the people here understand international politics about as well as they understand domestic politics (ie not at all) is fucking unconsciable, and what I called you out for in the beginning.
Never Again applies to everyone, I get so sick of saying that
Except if the majority has bad opinions on policy, huh?
I don’t support killing anyone, I don’t support military action, and almost every problem we have in the Middle East right now can be directly assigned as a consequence of us action.
I think we just need to walk away from the Middle East altogether.
At one time Israel might have been deserving of our help, but they have repeatedly tried to drag more countries into this to try to force us military action.
That said if one of said bad policies is killing people, then yeah I don’t care what happens to them.
Same as I don’t care what happens to hummus or most of the IDF.
Everyone is living by the sword
If we burn because of our decisions we deserve it.
It sucks for the people like me who don’t want to support genocide, but if the majority votes it in, we can’t say that it wasn’t legitimate
Okay, but that's not what you said. You didn't say "If America decides to nuke itself, it deserves it." You said that America deserves to burn if it continues supporting Israel's genocide, even lukewarmly.
That's you.
We deserve what we get is my usual and ultimate response.
I use burn in the context of if we burn you burn with us.
So yes I fully believe we deserve whatever we get, and that if comes time for us to burn, we take others with us.