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They offer a thing they're calling an "opt-out."

The opt-out (a) is only available to companies who are slack customers, not end users, and (b) doesn't actually opt-out.

When a company account holder tries to opt-out, Slack says their data will still be used to train LLMs, but the results won't be shared with other companies.

LOL no. That's not an opt-out. The way to opt-out is to stop using Slack.

https://slack.com/intl/en-gb/trust/data-management/privacy-principles

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If there's any PII in slack (which in itself is wrong), you cannot use this data for training, since the people whose data is being used have not given their consent. Simple as that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That’s not true at all. If you obfuscate the PII it stops being PII. This is an extremely common trick companies use to circumvent these laws.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

How do you anonymise without supervision ? And obfuscation isn’t anonymisation…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You could say it's to "circumvent" the law or you could say it's to comply with the law. As long as the PII is gone what's the problem?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

LLMs have shown time and time again that simple crafted attacks can unmask the training data verbatim.