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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

While I like gardening, unironically advising people to grow their own food to cut costs is just bonkers.

It takes months to grow anything, and given the limited space, you can't grow much anyway. You'll be lucky to grow 20€ worth of food on your balcony while spending hours doing the gardening. That's not cost effective.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah, sorry, no. Even if I had the space, when I get home from work at 1900 the last thing I want to do is more work. It's not like you can just plop some seeds into soil and do nothing until the harvest is ripe—I know, we had a decent family garden when I was a wee lad. Took a lot of work to keep it going.

If I worked 4 or even 6 hours a day—sure, I could add some homework to my day. But not when working 8 hours+commuting. And many people are working even longer days.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gardening has its own associated costs with supplies and requires space

It's the cost of supplies and garden maintenance and see requirement vs the cost of food at the supermarket

It needs to cost less than the growable food you can buy at the store

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You can get away with very little supplies, actually. Basically just a small shovel, the rest be salvaged.

Pots can be made from old plastic bins/containers, soil/fertilizer can be made from food waste using worms, seeds can be made from surprisingly many fruits/vegetables. Pumpkin seeds are right inside the pumpkin, potatoes and beans can be put right into the soil, even tomatoes can be grown from store bought ones.

And while it's a really cool hobby: you're right regarding the cost effectiveness. Unless you happen to have a significant plot of land, it won't make a dent in your grocery bill.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Plastic can leech plastic into your food, I know this personally from getting headaches from using soda bottles as water bottles

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And my aunt gets headaches from 5G.

You're not getting headaches from water bottles. It's placebo (or nocebo, in this case).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment: A consequences of health risk assessment in Bangladesh

Ram Proshad, Tapos Kormoker, Md Saiful Islam, Mohammad Asadul Haque, Md Mahfuzur Rahman, Md Mahabubur Rahman Mithu

International Journal of Health 6 (1), 1-5, 2018

Plastics are used widely everywhere in our life and without plastic, modern civilization would indeed look very diverse. This study focuses on the toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment and possible consequences of health risk assessment in Bangladesh. Plastics are essential materials in modern civilization, and many products manufactured from plastics and in numerous cases, they promote risks to human health and the environment. Plastics are contained many chemical and hazardous substances such as Bisphenol A (BPA), thalates, antiminitroxide, brominated flame retardants, and poly-fluorinated chemicals etc. which are a serious risk factor for human health and environment. Plastics are being used by Bangladeshi people without knowing the toxic effects of plastic on human health and environment. Different human health problems like irritation in the eye, vision failure, breathing difficulties, respiratory problems, liver dysfunction, cancers, skin diseases, lungs problems, headache, dizziness, birth effect, reproductive, cardiovascular, genotoxic, and gastrointestinal causes for using toxic plastics. Plastics occur serious environment pollution such as soil pollution, water pollution, and air pollution. Application of proper rules and regulations for the production and use of plastics can reduce toxic effects of plastics on human health and environment.

https://www.comfortncolor.com/HTML/Polystyrene_Styrene%20Ban/Toxic%20of%20Plastic/2018_Toxic_effects_of_plastic_on_human_health.pdf

This is just a paper citing plastics affects on health in Bangladesh but it does demonstrate that plastic can have these effects

You are wrongly comparing scientifically proven effects of plastic with misinformation

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Nope, you're simply wildly exaggerating the effects of the dosage you're actually getting.

That's like saying water causes cancer, because everyone with cancer drank water at some point.

You are not getting the minimum doses needed to get from a water bottle. And again, if you're getting headaches from a water bottle, that's your imagination. Period.