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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought it was from the woman's perspective. She doesn't know if the man is an incel or a regular, well behaved person.

The point is: do you roll the dice on the man, who could be anything, or the bear, who is a bear.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The known potential bad is better than the unknown potential bad. At least a bear won't rape you before/while killing you.

IMO, the answer given exposes more about the life experiences of the women answerers, and the result seems to be that their experiences have been bad.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

My only issue with that mentality is it completely ignores reality. I understand that most women have had a bad experience with a guy here or there. What they don't seem to understand is that the types of guys that are doing these things are a small percentage of the population.

The guys that are pulling this crap aren't even gonna get offended by this whole "man or bear" thing in the first place. At the end of the day it just makes the rest of us feel even more dejected and apathetic about it all. Why should I champion for any woman when I'm going to be seen as a predator regardless?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It may ignore your reality, but the thing about experience is that it defines our realities, and the experiences of the women who responded make up reality as they see it. If they've had more negative experiences than positive ones, their reality is that the bear is a better option.

Based on so, so much of what I've heard/learned from my wife, female friends, co-workers, daughters, stories from numerous personalities from tv, film, and radio, MAGA, Andrew Fucking Tate, etc., I can't say that I disagree with the choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The fact that treating someone as a person hinges on what you get out of it is a huge problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's a fair assumption from what I said though that's not how I meant it.

I treat everyone equally regardless of what is or isn't between their legs. I'm generally just that helpful guy that's always offering help to people even if they don't outright ask for it. I just try my best to make sure everything is going smoothly for everyone around me.

But I bet not a single woman I've interacted with would ever remember me helping them. They'd never remember me going out of my way to make sure they felt safe and were having as good of a time as possible. But they'll never forget that guy that made them uncomfortable. And that's all they'll think about. They'll ignore every single man they interacted with. They'll ignore all the men that didn't do anything to them. The men that treated them like normal human beings.

I'm not gonna change how I treat everyone. But it's really fuckin annoying to constantly hear "all men" when I'm actively going out of my way to be as helpful as possible.

Feels sisyphean.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The only people I've seen saying "all men" are men who are butthurt that women calculate the risk of being in the woods with a bear as less risky. None of the women who are choosing the bear say that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And that's worse than being raped and beaten to death?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

The worst devil's advocate you will ever do.