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[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 months ago (37 children)

non-flammable end use

Safe and stable chemistry

Oh neat, finally a non-explody and/or unstable battery lmao

[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (33 children)

Well, only relatively.

In order to work batteries need to have a certain amount of instability built in, on a chemical level. Them electrons have to want to jump from one material to a more reactive one; there is literally no other way. There is no such thing as a truly "safe and stable" battery chemistry. Such a battery would be inert, and not able to hold a charge. Even carbon-zinc batteries are technically flammable. I think these guys are stretching the truth a little for the layman, or possibly for the investor.

Lithium in current lithium-whatever cells is very reactive. Sodium on its own is extremely reactive, even moreso than lithium. Based on the minimal lookup I just did, this company appears to be using an aqueous electrolyte which makes sodium-ion cells a little safer (albeit at the cost of lower energy density, actually) but the notion that a lithium chemistry battery will burn but a sodium chemistry one "won't" is flat out wrong. Further, shorting a battery pack of either chemistry is not likely to result in a good day.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I believe it is still better due to raw material availability?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It is definitely that. That's kind of the point, actually. Sodium is easier to come by than lithium and does not require mining it from unstable parts of the world, nor relying on China.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

nor relying on China

The appeal of China is largely in the size of the labor force. Whether this tech is more or less feasible than cobalt and lithium, businesses will still want to exploit the large volume of cheap Chinese labor in order to build them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I'm sure they'll want to, but that'll be a little better than need to, i.e. relying on them for the raw materials as well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

If you consider Australia unstable, sure, maybe for humans, the animals are fine unless you’re Steve Irwin, just dont go diving with stingrays

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