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Tesla’s Autopilot and Full Self-Driving linked to hundreds of crashes, dozens of deaths (www.theverge.com)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Accoring to the math in this video: :

  • 150 000 000 miles have been driven with Teslas "FSD", which equals to
  • 375 miles per tesla purchased with FSD capabilities
  • 736 known FSD crashes with 17 fatalities
  • equals 11.3 deaths per 100M miles of teslas FSD

Doesnt sound to bad, until you hear that a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven...

Its rough math, but holy moly that already is a completely other class of deadly than a non FSD car

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

a human produces 1.35 deaths per 100M miles driven

My car has been driven around 100k miles by a human, i.e. it has produced 0.00135 deaths. Is that like a third of a pinky toe?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yeah, another 900k, and you'll be ded.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That number is like 1.5 billion now and rising exponentially fast.

Also those deaths weren't all FSD they were AP.

The report says 1 FSD related (not caused by but related) death. For whatever reason the full details on that one weren't released.

Edit: There are billions of miles on AP. In 2020 it was 3 billion

Edit: Got home and I tried finding AP numbers through 2024 but haven't seen anything recent, but given 3 billion 2020, and 2 billion in 2019, and an accelerating rate of usage with increased car sales, 2023 is probably closer to 8 billion miles. I imagine we'd hear when they reach 10 billion.

So 8 billion miles, 16 AP fatalities (because that 1 FSD one isn't the same) is 1 fatality per 500,000,000 miles, or put into the terms above by per 100mil miles, 0.2 fatalities per 100 million miles or 6.75 times less than a human produces. And nearly all of these fatal accidents were from blatant misuse of the system like driving drunk (at least a few) or using their phone and playing games.