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mastodon.art defederating calckey firefish social. Cites behavior of lead project dev (dotart.blog)
submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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mastodon.art has decided to suspend firefish.social from their instance due to issues with its administrator. The administrator of firefish.social was found to be boosting posts from a known harasser on another instance. mastodon.art takes a firm stance against racism and suspending full instances in these situations is part of their policy as a safe space. The known harasser has a history of using slurs, harassment, and editing screenshots to spread misinformation. However, the administrator of firefish.social has now forged a screenshot to paint mastodon.art in a negative light.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's not beef between two admins. Mastodon.art is strictly a "safes pace", so the admin choses what's safe.

Obviously, an instance admin having no issues with racism is a big fucking red flag about how they mod their instance.

In order to protect their instance and people on it, it's safer to defederate, than count "strikes" and send warnings.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't think the firefish admin "has no issues with racism". The "evidence" there is that Kainoa (the admin) boosted a link to an Electric Frontier Foundation page sent by Eris. I think that's a ridiculous conclusion to make.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People say that this Eris person has posted some racist shit.

If they are allowed to be a racist shit on Firefish (even get boosted by admin, even though it's an article, but an acknowledgement nevertheless), I can see how the .art admin can assume that it's the wild west there.

If we're stating opinions, I do not think that's a ridiculous conclusion to make.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How do you know that the Firefish admin was actually aware of any racist posts? That's quite the jump to conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The actual issue is, that as an instance admin who had previously been in the loop for some time with #fediblock and other channels in which admins share this kind of info, folks expected him to already have disqordia blocked.

Also, it seems from his posts elsewhere that he actually was aware and didn’t care. Ample reason to defederate from .art’s perspective. (Firefish.social has subsequently silenced but not blocked disqordia)

All of this is relatively routine, the screenshot fabrication thing more unusual.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has been informed, and took no action. No jumps anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. No, he was just de-federated with absolutely NO previous communication.
  2. There is still no real proof that Eris actually is racist at all. Everything is always "someone said/claims".
[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. That's false.
  2. Don't need proof, the admin can use their own judgement. This is not a faderal trial. It seems that ~30k poeple on .art trusts the admin's judgement.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  1. I am not aware of any further communication. T1C says there was no communication about it and I am not aware of claims from .art that state otherwise.
  2. That is ridiculous. Yes, it's their decision if they wanna federate with firefish.social or not. But accusing someone to support/accept racism needs some proof baking it.
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I mean there's proof, I saw the admin's post with links. I just don't care to dig in this "drama" as you put it. .art admin I trust way more than the guy who fabricated some screenshots.

Believe who you want. It's just I choose to believe the more trustworthy person. And no, I don't want to "do my own research", because I simply don't know either of those people, or care about either of those instances.

In the end, their house, their rules. There's nothing ridiculous about it.