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My real worry with Google's voyage into enshittification (thanks to Cory Doctorow @pluralistic the term) is YouTube.

Through YT, for the past 15 years, the world has basically entrusted Google to be the custodian of pretty much our entire global video archive.

There's countless hours of archived footage — news reports, political speeches, historical events, documentaries, indie films, academic lectures, conference presentations, rare recordings, concert footage, obscure music — where the best or only copy is now held by Google through YouTube.

So what happens if maintaining that archival footage becomes unprofitable?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

@ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf that is why @brewsterkahle created https://archive.org -- support them so we can keep an archive of important things, otherwise commercial companies will restrict and control the information in the future, and those who write the last are the real winners...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

@jeroen @ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf @brewsterkahle

Archive has immense storage capacity, but Google's data centers are much larger.

The world would be better served with archives scattered across the globe which federate. I've been drawn to the idea that every municipality should have one more or more archives (tied to libraries), which then federate.

the fundamental protocols of the internet are distributed and decentralized; they were designed to survive nuclear war.

my 2c

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

@GhostOnTheHalfShell
There are archives everywhere already. The problem is that these ventures are publicly funded, and municipalities are broke, and the national government squeezes public services in favor of other expenses. Here's one dataset of Archives locations in the USA: https://www.arcgis.com/home/webmap/viewer.html?webmap=6cc5e9301e28453cba9737f7e8d284df&extent=-125.6236,25.3089,-68.8902,52.8456 - We need to support public archival instututions that have already existed for decades. & not put all eggs in the IA basket.
@jeroen @ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf @brewsterkahle

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@j_feral @jeroen @ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf @brewsterkahle

I haven’t seen a GIS map in ages. Nice, and thank you!

I guess my question is if these outfits store some of the created works that reside on YT. I would argue that retaining everything on YT is a bit crazy. Organisms forget for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@j_feral @jeroen @ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf @brewsterkahle

The only problem is the lack of public investment. I’d much prefer to see municipalities provide internet and web hosting services to its residents, then build out parallels to BigPlatform through a fedi model. A fedi ecommerce element doesn’t exist.

For profit platforms end up being little different than the East India company, which was owned by the world’s richest man of his time. We had a party in Boston over it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@jeroen @ajsadauskas @pluralistic @technology @fanf @brewsterkahle And THAT Is why commercial companies want to destroy archive.org