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Can Hexbears explain to me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025? (hexbear.net)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I’m not even American, so it doesn’t affect me directly, but I am scared to death of a Trump presidency.

I am one of those people here who think that Biden is a far more competent executor of imperialist policies compared to Trump, but what I am even more afraid of is the early death of nascent left wing movements in America.

I am reminded of how the KPD getting its leaders murdered by Freikorps thugs during the Spartacist uprising (mind you, a much stronger party than any leftist movement in America today), and how its continued suppression paved the way to Nazi Germany.

Project 2025 will effectively embolden fascist thugs in America to do the same to the left wing movements, many of which are still in their cradle, and the death of leftist movements in their infancies will inevitably pave the way to a fascist America and undo many of the progress that had been made over decades.

The world cannot afford a fascist America. Imagine Hitler with nukes. The world will have to pay a much, much larger price as a result.

On this reasoning alone, I believe that Trump needs to be stopped at all cost. But many here have disagreed with me, and I need you to persuade me why I shouldn’t be afraid of Project 2025 at all. Even if the chance of that happening is 10%, I’m still not ready to gamble with it.

(I’m not saying we have to support Biden, I believe it is somewhat inevitable, I’m saying that we have to buy ourselves as much time as possible, even if it means strategic voting, to build a resilient leftist movement while delaying the inevitable for as long as we can.)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That aspect of project 2025 should just be standard practice for an incoming administration. Why would Biden keep a bunch of trump appointees in place unless that's what he wanted?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What aspect? Getting rid of federal appointees is normal practice because they are understood to be political appointments. Project 2025 says thats not enough and tries to mass purge all the non political employees as well, claiming they're actually political.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There are no non political people working for the federal government appointed by an elected representative.

Dems just don't due it because then people would expect them to do something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Again, we're not talking about appointees, we're talking about employees, clerks, beureacrats, scientists, regulators etc. You can say that those are all still political but that doesnt matter because you'd be completely missing my point. Neither party will do that because they logistically can't replace that many federal employees. Project 2025 is the NoVA migrant caravan. A total bogeyman designed to scare the shit out of the most diehard democractic party voters by literally threatening their jobs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

If your saying scientists and regulators are non political you've clearly shown you aren't worth talking to.

Classically apolitical things like climate change, our response to covid, and checks notes regulations that limit the power of corporations in favor of people.

Again, if you don't think those people are political you don't understand science or politics.

This is a great example of why republicans rum laps around democrats. Replicas make every employee swear a loyalty oath to advancing the republican agenda and then democrats insist on leaving those people there because "theyre non partisan"

Which is how we ended up with liberals getting completely let down by comey.... and then muller.... and then garland... and every other lifelong republican they've tried to get to do the actual political heavy lifting for them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If your saying scientists and regulators are non political you've clearly shown you aren't worth talking to.

I'm not. "Non-political employees" is just a legal definition, but its the alleged rubicon that's got all the liberals shitting themselves because its literally their jobs.

You're trying to argue against a point I'm not making. Please actually read my responses before you go on a rant or find an actual liberal to argue with.

Edit: my man, you already demonstrated that you completely understand and agree with me in this comment chain. But for some reason in this chain you think I'm making a completely different point.