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Who are some people that started out as ghouls and made a turn for the better? Bonus points if it came suddenly and from their own realization.

I thought about this for a while and the ones I could come up with aren't really that good.

  • Emperor Puyi.
  • Jeffrey Sachs went from doing shock therapy to Russia to defending their right to defend against NATO expansionism on a lib news show, but that's been his only good moment to my knowledge.
  • Jimmy Carter but he never changed course when he needed to, not much he can do to undo the harm he did as president.
  • Patty Hearst but she really wasn't doing anything bad, just came from a wealthy and powerful family much like Puyi.
  • Pat Tillman was deployed when he had a change of heart and contacted a bunch of reporters, sadly he was killed by another troop before he got to make much of a difference.
  • Peter Daou but he's largely irrelevant
  • That natsec ghoul that wrote the article about quitting her job because she doesn't want to be complicit in genocide.
  • Whistleblowers like Chelsea Manning? I don't know off the top of my head how involved she ever was with the war on terror, but she was a troop.
  • Malala and Greta were never ghouls, but did grow from lib media darlings to qin-shi-huangdi-fireball over time so honorable mention to both of them.

I guess the most obvious example that does satisfy my criteria is Kissinger, who really popped off when he died.

edit: You do not, in fact, have to hand it to Puyi before he was re-educated.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I just prefer to think of people like this as "suitable for ripping off". Approach everyone so critically you can't be singling anyone out or cutting anyone slack