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I don't think being a doomer is a good thing, tbh. Doomerism is contrary to revolutionary optimism and the people that tend to be doomers don't do any activism or are apart of some sort of group. Thanks for disclosing that you're a person that subscribes to S4A's Patreon. However, I saw what I saw when my friend got harassed by S4A, but I'm also fuzzy on the details surrounding it so I'll let that drop. I agree that we shouldn't "brigade" or "dog-pile" someone, which amounts to Internet harassment and cyber-bullying; just because people laugh off cyber-bullying doesn't mean that the suicides that ensue from those types of situations aren't real.
And yeah, agreed on being like "Hey, this person has exhibited this sort-of behavior and bad takes before so be careful on where they're headed." But that's why I don't trust many influencers. I had a friend that was an influencer and he got doxxed by an influencer even more powerful than he was and got harassed and threatened by ultra-right people IRL and so his team split and that was that. End of him, as far as his YouTube "career" or whatever you call it went. I lost contact with him about a year ago, I think. Probably more at this point.
Thank you for saying this and thank you for your honesty about how you feel about S4A. Yeah, I agree that people need to communicate more and be more diplomatic. But unfortunately, you've probably noticed that people in the ML community are "struggle fetishists" (as Liu Shaoqi might say). Everything has to be a struggle session or else we don't get "unity" (which reeks of commandism). It's brow-beating, abusive, rude, and destroys discussion. I'm on Twitter a lot. Lots of this on Twitter and not for nothing do people commit suicide after some Twitter spat (and we still have cases with Facebook where people brigade someone's page and that causes burnout and/or suicide).
Tbh, on the topic of "centrism," honestly, some answers to a particular question are in the neutral and that's all you can really answer a question with: a neutral or centrist answer.
You typed out a long-ass post, comrade, but I enjoyed going through it.