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[-] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Biden has sorta done an okay job supporting Ukraine with military aid, which I also support

You support a fascist coup regime

I'll be voting for Biden

You support genocide

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't believe Ukraine is a fascist coup regime, in fact I think that's a better description of Russia except the coup part, Putin just has total control anyway.

Either way since you seem to support Russia I will just state how much I love seeing the significant material and personnel loss Russia is suffering in the invasion. It is astonishing how significantly Ukraine has degraded their capabilities and displaced their status as one of the best armies in the world, and I honestly cannot wait to see what Ukraine does next.

I don't know what my favorite part is, Ukraine destroying/disabling Russia's entire black sea fleet (they are too scared to use their remaining ships since they have lost so many) or that Ukraine has removed 10% (maybe up to 15% so far https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-strikes-may-have-hit-15-russian-refinery-capacity-nato-official-2024-04-04/) of Russia's refinery capacity with drone strikes, and that number will continue to grow.

[-] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

Lmao "concerned" about genocide and cheering on fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian child. Fuck you for being excited about war.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I doubt you will since you probably dislike me but check out the song Vicarious by Tool, read the lyrics.

It's funny you highlight Ukraine's losses when Russia's are significantly higher. Ukraine gets to fight for their land as long as Ukraine wants to, you don't get to say "oh think of the Ukrainian children" like you care for them.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

We care more than you, you deranged monster

The only thing a Ukrainian child is good to you for is cannon fodder in your insane war against Russia which for you has nothing to do with Russia as a country and everything to with your conspiracy theories about the 2016 election that you still haven't gotten over

ukkkraine is more fascist than russia-cool and no amount of your ignorance will change that any more than your ignorance will change the outcome for those nazi fucks you support

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Lmao, it's funny you call Ukrainians Nazis. Did you see how Russian security services cut the ear off one of the suspects from the terrorist attack in Russia, forced the ear into the man's mouth, then took a selfie with the knife he used to remove the ear next to his Nazi patch on his arm. The dude then proceeded to auction the knife off.

Every country has Nazis, Russia certainly has significantly more than Ukraine.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Every country has Nazis, Russia certainly has significantly more than Ukraine.

Woof. Buddy. If we've built any rapport, you and I, I'd like to cash it in here. Please, for me, spend some time and energy trying to back up this specific claim, that Russia has more actual Nazis than Ukraine. I don't think this is true, but if you, who I've had positive interactions with, can come up with some evidence for its truth, I'll consider it, truly. For real, I'm not doing propaganda, I'm not trying to lead you into a trap, I'm asking you to please, spend some time looking into this claim to see if you actually agree with it upon closer inspection. And if you do, well then I promise I'll truly think about the evidence you present, I'll come at it with no preconceived notions, honestly believing that my friend Zetta might be correct.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Every country has Nazis, Russia certainly has significantly more than Ukraine.

This "every country has Nazis" point is an extreme cop-out. It's technically true, but it minimizes the extent that Nazism plays a role in the Ukrainian government and nation, and downplays the prevalence of Nazism.

A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War

Nazi collaborator monuments in Ukraine

National Guard of Ukraine boasts of coating bullets with pig fat to be used against Muslim soldiers

Tweet by Ukrainian parliament and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine openly celebrating Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera

Huge portrait of Stepan Bandera on the building of the Ternopil Regional Council

Ukrainian media discusses President Zelensky praising Nazi collaborator, Stepan Bandera

As for the problem of Nazism in general society, it's not comparable to the average in other nations. I'll specifically use Western sources for this to avoid claims of "Russian propaganda":

BBC Newsnight - Neo-Nazi threat in new Ukraine

The Nation - Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine

TIME - Inside A White Supremacist Militia in Ukraine

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I found YouTube links in your comment. Here are links to the same videos on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

You've misunderstood that song. You're not one of the angels on the sidelines, you're no angel.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

You misunderstood the song, the point of the song is that everyone feeds on someone else's misfortune. Humans have an intrinsic need for violence and horror, just watch the news and that's all that they have on because that's what people want to see.

The very first line in the song is more inline with how I feel it relates to me and all other humans "Eye on the TV, 'cause tragedy thrills me"

The only lyric that mentions angels is mocking people for believing mankind intrinsically has a good heart.

"Credulous at best, your desire to believe in Angels in the hearts of men Pull your head on out your hippy haze and give a listen"

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Actually I just realized I was thinking of Right In Two

Regardless, you've just confirmed that you are disgusting. No, I do not take any thrills from watching the slaughter in Ukraine. You've told on yourself.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

A Reddit link was detected in your comment. Here are links to the same location on alternative frontends that protect your privacy.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Russia's are significantly higher

do you have a source for this?

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Who gives a shit what you believe. Educate yourself before you open your mouth.
The current government of Ukraine was literally installed via a coup in 2014. Do you not know your history? The US government hand-picked their stooges to run the place, a conversation between then assistant secretary of state victoria nuland and some other ghoul was leaked confirming this very thing https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-2607995
Why do you think both Trump and Bidens corruption scandals were embroiled in Ukraine?

Do not speak on things you do not know of. History didn't start on October 7th nor did it start at the invasion of ukraine.

The fact that you try to make this about Russia is only worse, you're employing a poor rhetorical trick to misdirect the conversation to one of moral value with no relation to material analysis. No one here supports Russia, this a LGBTQ safe space you fucking idiot. We're just not blind dogs for the US empire, uncritically cheering as hundreds of thousands are pointlessly thrown into a meatgrinder in order to sustain the imperialist west for a few meagre seasons more.

Instead of trying for yet another poor dunk, try to employ your empathy or curiosity and consider (and then INVESTIGATE GODDAMMIT) why we might believe what we believe. You're a fucking idiot if you think we're cheering for Putin. Learn what critical support entails and learn why people argue that it is better NATO loses instead of Russia.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Well I do appreciate some of the insight in this comment, I was under the impression hexbear supported Russia and I was confused about that given the state of LGBT rights there. I even considered making a post here asking that exact question!

I'll do some more reading on Ukraine's current government but doubt my overall opinion on supporting them will change.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

Go check out the hexbear news mega

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

lol i literally told them to do the same thing, i hope they do cuz i think they'd really find it interesting

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I'll check it out when I'm home later today

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

You're disgusting

[-] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Reality is not a Marvel movie, you bloodthirsty piece of shit. An entire generation of people is being slaughtered on both sides of this war and your reaction is that you love seeing the "personnel loss" which is just a liberal way of saying murdered people. This is why we hate liberals, you view human misery as entertainment.

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