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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Which is why I'm baffled why people still spread the myth that Russia invaded to 'stop nato aggression.'

Like, firstly you're fucking wrong, but if you want to wear that L like a medal then go for it. Russia is the biggest reason the baltics joined.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure who would say that it was to 'stop NATO aggression', but it's not hard to imagine it as a some kind of response to NATO's continued expansion around them.

NATO hasn't been in any direct operations against Russia but they have been involved in the ME where they have been active.

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US's pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think of it a lot in the same way as the US’s pacific ocean and Caribbean territorial expansion and involvement in central america as a response to the Cuban Missile crisis and Soviet posturing.

The "Cuban" missile crisis was started by USA putting nukes in Turkey.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wasnt the US involved in SA long before the CMC?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Well yea, the US has had imperial ambitions since its founding, but they definitely doubled down when their primary adversary set up camp in their backyard

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia is the biggest reason the baltics joined.

The Baltic states joined in 2004. Long before Putin was made into a pariah, and Russia was still seen as part of the West and publicly aspiring to join NATO

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

russia, seen as part of the west? what the hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Because that's what Russia has been repeating for the past two years. Some people believe lies whan they're repeated often enough.

A major reason may have been to stop Ukraine's entry in Nato though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I am very confused by your comment. Are you saying Putin never said that, or are you saying he was lying?

From Putin's actual mouth:

ON DECISION TO LAUNCH 'SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION'

"We saw military infrastructure being ramped up, hundreds of military advisers working and regular deliveries of modern weapons from NATO. (The level of) danger was increasing every day. Russia preventively rebuffed the aggressor. It was necessary, timely and ... right. The decision of a sovereign, strong, independent country."

Just to be clear, he definitely said that, but he was definitely lying.

(source: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-speaks-victory-day-parade-moscows-red-square-2022-05-09/)