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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

He's not making a comment on voting or not voting at all, in fact this is written after Boutwell was elected.

He's addressing criticisms that directing protests at Boutwell before he has a chance to govern is misplaced and ill-timed, and he's pointing out that while Boutwell may be gentler, he's still a segregationist and is still in need of pressure. It doesn't matter if one is gentler than the other, the goal remains the same, and no freedom is ever given by the oppressor without being demanded.

Biden is gentler, but he's still a Zionist, and so he is still in need of pressure.

In case you're unfamiliar with the rest of his letter, he's also saying that the purpose of all direct action is to place pressure on moderates so that they may come to the negotiation table, even -and especially- direct action that causes material (in MLK's case, non-violent) harm to those same moderates.

We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed. Frankly, I have yet to engage in a direct action campaign that was “well timed” in the view of those who have not suffered unduly from the disease of segregation

And I haven't even gotten to the Malcom X quotes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

They also seem to leave out the reality that without the threat of Malcom MLK would have been a lot less effective.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Later in his life Malcolm X realized much of his youthful positions on things was stupid and he retracted them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I know what he's saying, yes. Like I say, pressure on Biden over Gaza sounds great, and it actually seems like it's having an impact, although it's still pretty fuckin mild compared with what the US should be doing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's less than it should be, but it's more than anyone has done before.

I've been super impressed with most of the conversations here and how they've evolved. Early on, there was a lot of friction between the uncommitted movement and the center-left, and I saw some accounts really grabbing ahold of that divide and trying to expand it... but the community turned it around. We saw a few weeks of posts explaining the difference between primaries and the general in a surprisingly nonabusive way for social media and now those troll accounts can just keep throwing out "genocide Joe" and it becomes less plausible and more ridiculous everyday he takes another step away from Israel.

Man, do I want more, but we've gotta claw for every inch, and it's easier to do together.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Great summary. This has been my experience as well. You know what that means tho, right? WE MUST PUSH HARDER STILL!

The astroturfers will only get more numerous and hateful as we inch closer to november.

Stay strong comrade. Solidarity with workers, solidarity with the voters of which we should be a part, solidarity with those establishing systems of mutual aid, solidarity with those that take to the streets. Everyone must do a little of sonething, some will do more of everything.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ah, well welcome to the protest then, comrade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago