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[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Baristas are making $20/hr now? Shit, I may have to go back to slinging lattes. I was making a little over minimum when I was working at coffee shops 20 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In some places $20 is just over minimum wage these days. But you couldn't afford to live in those places on $20/hr.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Wait what? $20 for minimum wage? In what universe? Am I being gaslit? What's going on here?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seattle minimum wage is $19.97 and it goes up every year. Though it's $17.25 for small businesses if you get tips or they pay for medical benefits.

https://www.seattle.gov/laborstandards/ordinances/minimum-wage

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I'm curious if businesses actually get health insurance for the employees for $275 a month (difference / hour with 40 hour work weeks) and how the quality of the package they get compared to what the employees could get themselves for $275/month.

I'm not familiar with the various healthcare types in America though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

$20/hr is not a lot of money when you look at actual expenses

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I don't think they were saying it was a lot, just that they're not familiar with anywhere where $20/hr is anywhere approaching minimum wage. Brought to you by the federal $7.25 minimum.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is in Australia. Cost of living is also higher though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Nah mate it's 20 dollaridoo, tottaly different

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

$20/hr is 40k/year assuming 40 hour weeks, 50 weeks/year. Average rent is 1750/month which is $21,000/year. The rule of thumb for affordable rent is 30% of gross income, at $20/hr the average apartment is actually going to cost you over 50% of your gross income. It's hard out there for a pimp.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

California. But only quick-service employees. It's fuckin' weird that it wasn't a global minimum wage. We have two now, basically, depending on the job.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

In PA we've had two minimum wages for as long as I can remember, based on whether the position is traditionally a tipped one or not.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I live in a pretty LCOL area and I feel like 20 dollars an hour is the least you have to make to rent a studio apartment and live on your own. I make about that and barely afford rent on a townhouse with 2 other people. It feels like 20 dollars an hour, nowadays, is somewhat equivalent to 8 dollars an hour, twenty years ago. Its sad, but it doesn't feel like a good wage anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

In my part of the US $20/hr is enough to rent a one bedroom apartment and subsist on lentils

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Denver has a minimum wage of $15/hr now, and you're def not living comfortably on that.

$450k is pretty far from an average salary for a software engineer, too.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

With inflation, $20 today is $12 in 2004

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Probably 20$/hr including tips

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Starbucks unionised, and thank the gods it did