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I'm looking for something to replace cloud storage for myself and family. I've tried to use/like NextCloud but honestly I despise it. The UI/UX really bothers me, and administering it is a pain. It also just does way more that I want or need.

What I'm looking for:

  • Supports a virtual/sync folder on Mac. Like iCloud does, it needs to create a local folder on a Mac. I personally just use SMB, but for family members that's not as easy (see next point).
  • Accessible from the internet. I don't want to put my family members on the VPN, but I do have a central OAuth for other stuff so I want it to be secured with behind that.
  • Doesn't need to have a web interface or phone app. If it integrates into the computer, it doesn't really need this. I can just use (FileBrowser)[https://filebrowser.org/]. It's mostly used for documents and the like, so desktop/laptop use is the most important.

Anyone use anything that fits this? Or anyone in general dislike NextCloud and use something else?

Edit: Maybe I can just setup webdav and use something like https://mountainduck.io/? Would be better to find something FOSS though, if possible.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

My gripe with NC has always been that keeping it up to date is a pain, I love the actual functionality. I'm in the process of migrating my install from a normal install in a TrueNAS Core jail to the containerized version in the Linux version of TrueNAS and that too is a struggle. I'm hoping that the containerized version will be easier to keep up to date, as that seemed to go wrong constantly.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have a Nextcloud running in docker for years, the update has always been just docker pull. After years of suffering with the native installation, and upgrade processes that never worked, I migrated to docker and it couldn't be simpler.

This is one of the reasons every time someone says "you don't need docker to run your server" I'm like "yes, but that's like saying you don't need a vehicle to travel 100km".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The issue for me is that the docker update alone doesnt do it. I have no idea why and at this point I‘m to tired to care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If the docker update doesn't update things you might not be using docker at all. Docker is like having a VM that you destroy after every run, so it's not that it updates the version, it is as if you were spinning up a new machine with the new version, a machine running the new version can't be running the old version by definition, unless you did something like telling that machine to overwrite the installation folder with a local one, e.g. by having something like - /var/www/nextcloud:/var/www/nextcloud (or whatever the path is where you have next cloud installed locally) in your volumes for the docker, which would be akin to buying a new PC because your GPU is old, immediately swapping out the new GPU for the old one, and wondering why the new GPU is so slow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for explaining. I know how docker works but I have the suspicion that l I might in fact have one persistent volume too many. I‘ll check that again if I have time. Thanks again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you have a volume mounted on the folder where next cloud is installed it would be the same as what I mentioned. Look for anything mounting on /app that should be used from the image.

That being said be careful, if you haven't upgraded in a long time it's possible the automatic upgrade won't work or might break stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I am updating regularly. Its just not automatic, which kinda sucks. Thanks for explaining. I'll check it out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I wrote a custom script to update it so I can very much understand that sentiment. I‘m also not the largest fan of the service just randomly breaking every couple of weeks and then having to run my update script. I‘m running the linuxserver docker compose version iirc.