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From the article: *Large SUVs were particularly affected. According to the police, notes were attached to the cars indicating that they were harmful to the climate. The tyres were not punctured, but merely deflated. The cars were parked in the area between the S-Bahn line and Elbchaussee around Kanzleistraße. *

Personally, I like this protest way more than glueing themselves to the streets, causing traffic jams where cars burn gasoline for hours and ambulances / firefighters / police gets stuck, putting innocent life in danger.

The article is in German. Warning: this link leads to google translate.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (21 children)

You mean, the SUV which sits in my driveway? The one that drives less than 500 miles a year?

The one that is parked in front of the house powered by solar energy?

Why don't you think of who the real problem is. Cargo ships running on bunker oil (This is the nastiest fuel you can imagine). Did- you know, they will typically switch to low sulfur fuels before entering most countries, because burning bunker oil is illegal nearly everywhere.

How, about you target the rich people, who fly private jets everywhere. Let's not even mention the mega yachts which are basically floating cities.

Instead, of the fellow who happens to own a large vehicle, in order to haul things, and move children between events, while being able to support the proper luggage/equipment.

Also, lastly, Would you prefer me drive around in my big SUV which gets pretty decent gas mileage (in the 20s, excellent for a large vehicle), has modern pollution systems, catalytic converters, etc.....

Or... would you prefer I drive around in my tiny racecars, with a 1,000hp turbocharged LS, absolutely no emissions equipment, not even a muffler.

Both are completely legal.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (17 children)

Sorry to say this to you, since you seem to take it somewhat personal, but it's evident we need to stop both SUV's and bunker oil.

I agree industry needs to step to it's game. But frankly, so do you. Battling climate change is a painful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I don't see any eco-pirates boarding cargo ships and confiscating their fuel, do you? Seems to me that only working-class people are targeted by these so-called “activists”, and not anyone who actually has the power to change anything.

Honestly, this smells like a false-flag operation meant to discredit environmental activism by painting activists as criminals.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Here's an example of Greenpeace blocking a russian liquid natural gas tanker from reaching port in Finland from September of last year, and here's an example of Greenpeace activists boarding a container ship containing paper to protest deforestation from November of last year, here's another example of the same group boarding a heavy lift vessel to protest offshore oil drilling from January of this year, and here's an example of some scamps vandalizing a wal-mart heiress's yacht from earlier this month.

You're absolutely right, that activists boarding ships or otherwise vandalizing them gets way less press and markedly less discussion than this protest has. Why do you think that is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because those actions affect people with power, not the powerless general public.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it probably sounds cynical, but I agree with you there. When there are successful actions that make powerful people uncomfortable, those power people successfully repress news coverage of those actions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Do they need to repress anything, or do people just not care? The yacht news was shared on here, I was literally in that thread. After 2 days, it had less than 60 upvotes and about 10 comments.

In one day, this post is already near 200 upvotes and has 148 comments.

But I guess let's just keep pretending we're all angles and that the 1% and leading class are acting in complete isolation. Let's just keep pretending they are the only problem.

People only care when something might affect them directly, and people messing with theirs cars seems a lot closer to a possible reality to them then being affected by climate change. Which is why everyone claims to want for there to be action to stop climate change, but they are incredibly stubborn about having to change anything about their way of life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

News coverage isn't the goal. Coercing the rich to change their ways is the goal. Because only the rich can change anything.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Besides, if one does not see certain actions, those actions might as well not be happening at all. If only there was a way people who cause the greatest harm to control what gets reported in mainstream media, effectively shifting people's attention away from the harmful practices of their businesses..

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