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Yeah I hear it's about collapsing spatial dimensions as if reality itself is a perfect 1:1 copy of our simplified understanding of it (math) and it's done with technology that's super advanced so it never has to actually be described or follow conservation of energy or anything
Plus the entire premise seems to be a nihilistic parable about how fascism is right and you need to wipe out rival civilizations before they even know you exist, or they'll do the same to you
I see this take all the time here, and then when I (a person who read the book) counter that it's a Sci-Fi parable about Chinese foreign policy from the perspective of the Chinese (you need to keep your head down and not draw attention to yourself or the evil ~~Trisolarans~~ American Empire will come get you, humanity is the China stand in in the novel) white people yell at me for being some kind of asian chauvinist.
I have a theory that Westerners from the imperial core think of the Dark Forest and automatically put themselves in the Trisolarian imperialist POV, and are ideologically incapable of switching that POV to the side of the victims of imperialism. That’s the only way I can explain how they could have come away with that conclusion.
Nah, I'm not gonna be as uncharitable as all that (beyond the snark in my original post). Online western leftists have diegetic essentialism built into them as a survival mechanism, so when chuds deliberately push their reading of dark forest theory (and to be fair, it is very easy to see how Game Theory Law of the Jungle, Kill or Be Killed can be read that way) it sets off their Hitler particle detectors. I don't blame them as it's probably the most common take they'd encounter online.
The defensive realpolitik 'Keep your Head Down' reading is only apparent if you're familiar with China's recent history and foreign policy decisions post-Deng.
Are you up to date with internal Chinese geopolitical thought? Is the US's stupid aggression on Taiwan and the self defeating trade war being viewed as a refutation of the idea that tbp is apparently putting forth that China could "keep it's head down" ?
You haven’t read the second book, which went precisely into this.
Book 2 massive spoiler
Humanity became over-confident and thought they had overtaken the Trisolarians despite the technological sanctions, and started to perceive the Trisolarians as making all kinds of stupid mistakes. Maybe now it’s a good time to negotiate peace with them. All will go well, right?
The book is a cautionary tale about misreading intentions. The US imperialism is not something to be taken lightly. They have far more powerful weapons than just military prowess. I cringe everytime I read here that people think the US is going to collapse soon. The US would rather bring the whole world down than to collapse by itself. Being prudent and careful is key to dealing with the US imperialists.
Thank you for the context.
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