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[–] [email protected] 103 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think in the case of forced agreements (both Roku not having a way to select disagree and disabling all hardware functionality until you agree, and blizzard not allowing login to existing games including non-live service ones) no reasonable court should be viewing this as freely accepting the new conditions.

If you buy a new game with those conditions, sure you should be able to get a full refund though, and you could argue it for ongoing live service games where you pay monthly that it's acceptable to change the conditions with some notice ahead of time. If you don't accept you can no longer use the ongoing paid for features, I expect a court would allow that. But there's no real justification for disabling hardware you already own or disabling single player games you already paid for in full.

It'll be interesting to see any test cases that come from these examples.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I see 1 class action where the consumers get screwed and the company gets a slap on the wrist

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Right?

Amazes me how many people cheer on these class action suits, and when I remark that class action screws the consumer and benefits the company, lemmites downvote to oblivion.

I got my first class action reimbursement at age 19...for perhaps $5.

Today I see one about twice a year, again for about $5 each. I don't even bother replying to get my check - it's simply not worth the effort.

The class-action system is a scam to benefit the wrong-doers, not to give strength to a class. What company would prefer 2 million court cases vs a single case? They want to prevent that first individual case from happening, at all, let alone from winning. If one case wins, the ambulance chasing lawyers would crawl out of the wood work and line up for their payout. The legal fees alone would be 10x+ any class-action settlement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The problem here is "reasonable court." One party in the US has spent decades stacking the courts with unreasonable judges who will agree to anything a corporation hands them.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

I think you are correct. A contract requires "consideration." You got nothing for agreeing to the new contract, so I don't think it is legal.