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That's why we elected officials, to come up with ideas. Taxing food is not an idea, it's a cheap shot at the working class. Tax from the top down, beginning with luxury goods, private planes, expensive non essentials. But for fucks sake stop taxing food!!
Don't most Canadians receive a bigger rebate for the carbon tax than the tax ends up costing them?
Yes, but the government hasn't made that clear in short enough words for the average Conservative voter to understand.
The last time Trudeau had a chance to clarify this at the house, he instead made a childish "I know you are but what am I" joke about it.
Found another dummy never paid it.
Yes. 8 out of 10, according to Trudeau. It might be more like 7.
The only mistake they made was not sending out the rebates on paper checks inside a pretty envelope covered in windmills. They would have called it "self-promotion" and "an unnecessary expense", and they would have been right, but apparently we're not good enough to be treated as intelligent adults who can see our own finances.
Yes, because most Canadians don't pay it.
If you're taxing my food supply at every step on its way to me, you were indeed taxing me
The ignorance required to make that statement is fucking shocking.
Nope. We elect officials to manage our shared resources in the way we say. We could get them to consult experts and do what they say, but half the time it's a climate-denying bunch of politicians masquerading under an affordability lie mask, and they don't consult for advice they would ignore anyway.
When we did consult experts, the best idea from economists and climate types with a chance of success was ... (drum roll) ... Carbon Tax.
So that's what the "tax nothing and provide nothing" party wants you to believe. Their rich friends get hit a lot with taxes and it's getting hard to avoid them.
Remember that taxing the transport method doesn't tax the cargo except indirectly. The goal is to provide massive opportunities for a better transport option to grow because conveyance isn't firmly linked to cargo: there's options. Evolution takes time, and we're starting Very Late, but the proceeds from the tax is a fast-forward button.
If your politicians are demonizing the carbon tax, despite non-rich people getting far more back on average, find out why they're doing that. There's a rich guy behind it.
Good ideas, all of them. Add in higher taxes for second homes, any rental income, or just make it any income above 300k/year or some number to firmly hit the rich bitches and not the 99.999% rest of us.
Stop eating gasoline.
You sound like one of those people that believes in trickle down economics and thinks that taxing a company won't cause them to pass the cost to consumers.
That's not what they said at all. That's not even an uncharitable read of it. Indignant, impotent anger does in no way change the fact that costs are a deterrant, even to those who can pass the costs along, and that making certain business choices more expensive than others disincentivises those choices.
The simple fact is, we pay for the sins of those who come before us. We pay for the sins of those who voted for lax governance of business, reduction of environmental protections, the breakdown of antitrust protections, and the weakening of labour laws.
We pay figuratively, and we pay literally.
You're so close. So very close.
If company A uses gas, they have to pay a little more carbon tax, and that extra costs end up in the final product.
But lucky for you! Company B also exists, they crunched the numbers and found that over the life of their vehicle it is actually cheaper to use EVs, in their case their end product is a little cheaper than what Company A could provide.
Then you go to the store and you see option A and B, you see B is cheaper and you buy it.
The carbon pricing model has now worked exactly as economists have been saying for decades.