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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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"Walt Bismarck," a neoreactionary/alt-right blogger, decided to live by his beliefs and move from the liberal hellhole of Arizona to the midwest:

In 2018 I moved from a racially diverse swing state in the Sun Belt to a homogenous red state up in corn country. This decision was largely motivated by politics—I was looking to retreat to an imagined hyperborea free of crime and degeneracy where my volk had political autonomy.

The particular delight here is the section "Reason #3 - White people are no longer my most important ingroup".

It turns out they don't like him, they don't like his ideas, and the white womenfolk don't take to him. The frauleins prefer "stoic chudbots with rough hands and smooth brains" over his noble mind and physique.

In practice a society that encourages late marriage is actually much better for more bookish eccentric guys, who tend to be late bloomers in developing their masculinity and ability to seduce women.

(meaning: he came on weird at one of the nice church girls he was ogling to the point where one of her large guy friends suggested he take his leave.)

Our guy comes so close to introspection, but successfully evades it and reaches the root cause - these are the wrong kind of white people:

But these Midwesterners aren’t descended from entrepreneurial adventurers like the rest of us. Their forebears were conflict averse and probably low testosterone German Catholics who fled Bismarck’s kulturkampf to acquire cheap land under the Homestead Act. These people mostly settled areas where aggro Scotch Irish types had driven off the Injun decades ago, so they never had to embrace the risk-tolerant, enterprising, itinerant mindset that had once fueled Manifest Destiny. Instead they produced families that became weirdly attached to their generic little plot of fungible prairie dirt, and as a result we now have huge pockets of the country full of overcivilized and effete Teutons with no conquering spirit who treat outsiders like shit.

There is no shortage of genuine and active neo-Nazis out Iowa way. But they would have met Wordy NRx Boy here and flushed his head.

In the comments section, other racists call him out on his insufficient devotion to the cause of white nationalism.

Even our good friends at The Motte took the piss out of him.

The illustrations are, of course, AI-generated.

original post. Found on Bluesky by ratelimitexceeder.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago (4 children)

always love* it when these guys get so race scientist they start on different groups of white people

[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

This is also what it means when the antiracists say race is a social construct.

You can't actually define any of these races rigorously in the first place. It's a subjective assessment. The racists define race backwards from tribe in order to categorize the people they hate as physically different to justify their hate

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

This is fundamentally a part of any kind of race science or racism.

And fascism! Or any discriminatory -ism, up to and including capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 7 months ago (4 children)

@dgerard Whiteness is a movable feast. (Ask anyone who's Jewish, or LGBT+, or Italian/Irish in the USA in the 19th century or Hispanic in the USA before/after the 1970s).

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Ayuuuuuuuup. Movable feast is a great term for it. Even once formerly ostracized groups get permitted into the in-group, their membership is strictly conditional on serving the interests of those closer into the center of the Whiteness construct. Stop being useful, watch how fast the old hate rears its ugly head again.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

remember how Germans used to be swarthy

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Mayhaps the Bohemians?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

His glowing reference to the "aggro Scots Irish" reminded me that the "Scots Irish" are descended from Ulster Protestants, and that it wasn't fun being an Irish Catholic in Northern Ireland for much of the 20th century. Ian Paisley famously said that Catholics "breed like rabbits".

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I suspect there are people who have complicated theories about the relative whiteness rankings, and thus superiority, of natives of Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes there are, or were. The OG Nazis treated Dutch POWs slightly better than French ones, for instance.