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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/showmeufos on 2024-12-27 01:37:31.

Air Traffic Control personnel at Stewart International Airport in New York's Hudson Valley witnessed the mysterious object in June and reported the incident to the Federal Aviation Administration.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/oochymane on 2024-12-27 01:24:35.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/hellfollowed84 on 2024-12-27 00:47:19.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/down_by_the_shore on 2024-12-27 00:13:09.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/esosecretgnosis on 2024-12-26 23:35:58.

Original Title: "...if you take the trouble to join me in the analysis of the modern UFO myth, you will see human beings under the control of a strange force that is bending them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception."


The following excerpts are from the book "Messengers of Deception, UFO Contacts and Cults" by Jacques Vallee.

I believe there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the UFO phenomenon. It aims at social and political goals by diverting attention from some human problems and by providing a potential release for tensions caused by others. The contactees are a part of that machinery. They are helping to create a new form of belief: an expectation of actual contact among large parts of the public. In turn this expectation makes millions of people hope for the imminent realization of that age-old dream: salvation from above, surrender to the greater power of some wise navigators of the cosmos. With the release of popular UFO movies, many people who previously were skeptics have begun to jump on this bandwagon from outer space. I wish them bon voyage. However, if you take the trouble to join me in the analysis of the modern UFO myth, you will see human beings under the control of a strange force that is bending them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception. This role may be very important if changing social conditions make it desirable to focus the attention of the public on the distant stars while obsolete human institutions are wiped out and rebuilt in new ways. Are the manipulators, in the final analysis, nothing more than a group of humans who have mastered a very advanced form of power? Let me summarize my conclusions thus far. UFOs are real. They are physical devices used to affect human consciousness. They may not be from outer space. Their purpose may be to achieve social changes on this planet, through a belief system that uses systematic manipulation of witnesses and contactees; covert use of various sects and cults; control of the channels through which the alleged “space messages” can make an impact on the public.

We already have human technologies that are both physical and “psychic” (in the sense of influencing the consciousness of an observer). An example of such a technology is given, very simply, by your television set. There is no question that it is physical. You can talk about its size, volume, weight, and temperature. But if you turn it on, it will begin to control your awareness in peculiar ways. You will observe scenes that, as far as you can tell, could be either “real” or faked. You may be a witness to an actual crime committed right now, or to something that happened years ago. You may also believe a scene to be absolutely real, when in fact it is actually staged in a studio in Hollywood. Based on what you can observe, you have no way to know the truth, even if you have a Nobel prize in physics. Besides, your television set influences you in other ways. It determines what toothpaste you use, how you shave, who you go to bed with, and how you will vote in the next election. In some respects I think UFOs are similar to television sets. They are physical objects, the products of a technology, but they are also something else: the tools of a major cultural change. I think UFOs are perpetrating a deception by presenting their so-called “occupants” as being messengers from outer space, and I suspect there are groups of people on Earth exploiting this deception

The group of people who will first manage to harness the fear of cosmic forces and the emotions surrounding UFO contact to a political purpose will be able to exert incredible spiritual blackmail. Such weapons are less flexible, but also less detectible, than tanks and aircraft; they represent a more lasting form of control over the lives of men. It takes a long time to bring their effects to complete fruition, because secrecy is essential for them to work. The contactees and the occult believers have been used as puppets. The public in every country now recognizes the existence of UFOs, and associates it with the idea of wise visitors from space. A majority of the American public has become convinced of the existence of such visitors. They have harnessed Hollywood. And they have made sure the whole subject remains a matter of ridicule and disrepute among scientists. There is in the White House a man who has seen a UFO and is impressed by what he saw. There are small groups and sects of contactees all over the world, using a vague and confusing jargon that protects the unspeakable reality, and claiming that salvation from Heaven is just around the corner. I don’t think we should expect salvation from the sky. I believe there is a very real UFO problem, I have also come to suspect that it is being manipulated for political ends. And the data suggest that the manipulators may be human beings with a plan for social control. Such plans have been made before, and have succeeded. History shows that having a cosmic mythology as part of such a plan is not always necessary. But it certainly helps.

Everyone is now so anxious to see the government “reveal” this long-awaited information that no one questions the reality of the basic facts and the political motivations that could inspire a manipulation of those facts. Trying to outsmart the CIA and the Pentagon has become such a national pastime that lawsuits against federal agencies under the Freedom of Information Act have begun to accumulate. All that has been shown so far is that these agencies were involved – often covertly – in aspects of the UFO problem. I suspect that they are still involved. But the UFO enthusiasts who are so anxious to “expose” the government have not reflected that they may, once again, be playing into the hands of the manipulators. And the UFOs may not be spacecraft at all.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Sephior on 2024-12-26 23:26:52.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Beneficial-Earth-541 on 2024-12-26 23:14:55.

Pretend for a minute, we, independently, took our terrestrial science to a level just 20 years in advance of where it currently resides while simultaneously solving the hunger, environmental, and social injustices crises. 《Just freaking Pretend!!!》

In our newfound peaceful and powerful stance as a unified planet of empathetic beings, we begin to explore our local galaxy.

Lo and behold! There's a bunch of clever critters a hop skip and jump from our now blossoming, burgeoning, madly successful home that clearly just need some help here and there.

They aren't the smartest, but damn they're cute!

How would you tell them that you got their back while they take the time to grow?

Would you appear in some form to the smartest ones? Would you leave swirls and codes they could learn from In their art, and writing, and even in their crops?

How would you present yourself so the cute little dumb critters would know YOU mean no harm???

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/JockoJ1976 on 2024-12-26 23:10:39.

I mean let’s be honest, it makes sense. They are trying to flood the skies with the drones to make it harder to see the true UAP’s that are more widespread. What we really need are some more whistle blowers and people to come forward, as well as more documentation to be leaked out to the public. Hell, if anyone has any shit they want public send it to me and I’ll take the heat

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/DoNotPetTheSnake on 2024-12-26 22:59:02.

Original Title: If you would like to learn more about the history of UFO-ology, read 'Passport to Magonia,' written by the man who basically UFO-ology. Computer scientist and professional astronomer, Jacques Vallée, co-developed the first computerized map of Mars for NASA and ARPANET. Link to free read inside

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/allopatric on 2024-12-26 22:41:23.

“Orb” came from low under tree line then into the sky at sunset. It slowed down as it continued to rise but the drones were soon out after. They are certainly connected , I wanted them to go away because they give me such anxiety. Whatever this is, I am a believer. I always wanted to believe, now seeing it with my own eyes isn’t as fun as I thought it would be.

Time: just at sunset, 5ish, today Location: eastern Pa, not far from nj border

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/CanUpset8816 on 2024-12-26 22:05:36.

Just wanted to put this here as a “mark my words” type of post and see if anyone has similar thoughts.

All over the world these “drone” style orbs are appearing around nuclear assets. It has been discussed previously that UAPs have the ability to engage/disengage nukes. Initially this was likely testing our capabilities and they have now switched over to fully disarming them.

As a side note, I think the ablative nature of some of the UAPs are them gobbling up fissile material and converting them into useless slag and shitting them out over uninhabited areas.

Nukes are likely our only defense against them (if they are hostile - WHICH I DONT THINK THEY ARE). However humans will likely overreact in the event a mothership arrives and send a salvo of missiles at them - ruining large swaths of our planet with radiation in the subsequent collateral damage.

Right now they are letting us know they are here. The government likely knows they no longer have nukes. When the threat of misguided retaliation is gone, they will bring in the bigger ships and begin to communicate with us directly.

What are your thoughts?

PS: I do not believe NHI are hostile or are here to “invade” - I think it will be more of a “yo, chill” type of communication.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/phr99 on 2024-12-26 21:12:29.

Original Title: Diana Pasulka: "Garry Nolan was recruited into the program, just like i was. I dont know how to discuss it... the government was looking into UAPs. Aerospace corporations asked me about the effects that angels or demons could have on people."


Below are some quotes from a recent interview (timestamp 1:00:04) with Pasulka, Karl Nell, by Jesse Michels:

When I first started corresponding with people in aerospace corporations, they wanted the data. Like they wanted to know what did European Catholics see when they saw an angel or a demon. Did they have any effects? like what kind of effects did they have on their bodies? Things like that. And did they report other types of effects? Well yeah all that data is there.

So you know I started to look at it and I met Garry Nolan. I met Gary Nolan pretty early on, probably about 2014, and he shared with me his own research. So he had been recruited, just as I was being recruited, he was also recruited to work with people who were... you know... in the program, I guess you could call it.

I don't know how to really discuss it, you know... he... the government was looking into UAPs. And he was a person who could help, so they recruited him. And I got to see some of the research that he was doing, and some of it had to do with the effects that it had on people.

There are several interesting pieces in these few quotes

The "legacy program" or some other program?

Does anyone have a clue which program she is talking about? I think Garry Nolan has stated that he never got access to an actual retrieved craft, because that was blocked by (he wouldnt say who, but probably that Gaffney CIA guy).

He elsewhere has also said that part of his task was to get DNA from people that had interacted with UAP / NHI. And of course we know about the caudate putamen and brainscans he studied.

So what program is pasulka talking about here?

The program was investigating effects of angels, demons

Apparently the angels and demons angle was being seriously investigated by this program. And people from within aerospace companies, probably actually involved in reverse engineering, were actively asking about it.

Why would the program try to recruit someone specialized in these matters in the first place, if this stuff wasnt related?

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/TommyShelbyPFB on 2024-12-26 21:12:11.

Original Title: This video is the first NJ UFO video posted so far that shows one of the five observables: Instantaneous Acceleration. Here's the video with better contrast, slowed down and zoomed, stabilized, frames counted, etc. This appears to be a legitimate anomalous UFO with instant acceleration.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/silv3rbull8 on 2024-12-26 16:34:00.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/BongMongrel on 2024-12-26 16:08:52.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Forsaken_Side_1715 on 2024-12-26 15:05:29.

At my Christmas dinner yesterday with family I brought up the drone situation. 6 adults were present, other than myself. Everyone brushed it off as Amazon or delivery testing or no big deal or nothing serious. Like they haven't even been paying attention. Like it was literally nothing at all. I didn't even go into "crazy" conspiracy theories or anything just brought up how unsettling this all is. Particularly with them over critical infrastructure of the United States. Especially considering we're close to World War 3 here. Unfortunately, the masses aren't paying attention, or at least not properly. It felt like they aren't even aware that we are that close to war. That Putin is ruthless, and this proxy war is on the verge of something much larger. Unless it affects their grocery prices they don't care. Maybe it's our job to make them care. Spread the messages, the realities, no matter how difficult or unsettling.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/JustAlpha on 2024-12-26 20:41:03.

So recently there been a lot of conversations and threads about what the possible intent of NHI could be if they were behind the drone incursions.. I just so happened to be watching the Nightmare Before Christmas because it's just great... and as it turns out, a pretty analagous situation to our own. Here a basic rundown:

There's a place called Halloween Town. All the townsfolk think and act like regular people except their entire society, culture and understanding is based on Halloween. Also, they're all Halloween monsters.

Their leader, Jack, longs for something outside of these confines and searches for more. One day, he has a brush with sublime and is pulled in a new world. Christmas Town.

Jack's mind is blown at even the thought of a world outside of Halloween. No one is dead, snow, sweet smells, joy and cheer. He is completely amazed and wants to share this with his friends.

There is a specific scene that encapsulates where we are: The Town meeting.

Jack attempts to explain the concepts of Christmas to the townsfolk, but they can't understand why there isn't any horror. Treats without a trick? No matter how Jack tries to explain, they don't get it. Eventually he just explains it in a Halloween way.

This film is very interesting because we, an outside observer, fully understand both Christmas and Halloween and the humor lies in the characters inability to grasp concepts outside of their worldviews.

We don't understand why NHI can be here and not want us dead, or we apply our own concepts of religion. We apply to them the concepts of power we're familiar with as humans. We make them gods or conquerors.

You could even take it further and apply Jack's research and eventual bastardization of Christmas to reflect the USA's crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs.

I think it important not make assumptions about what little is known about the Phenomenon. Our focus should be solely on expanding our understanding and collaborating to see a clearer picture. The difference is, our government won't tell us what they know. At least Jack told his people.

We should find out what is known before we make any further assumptions. Arguing here won't get us closer to the truth.

Merry Christmas! (I was busy yesterday..)

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Resident_Thanks9331 on 2024-12-26 20:23:38.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/NSlearning2 on 2024-12-26 20:19:19.

I just wanted to take a moment to introduce a wild idea.

See I think it would be helpful for many of you to understand that when people share a video or a picture, they are just sharing information. It’s not the smoking gun or the answer to all your questions. It’s not proof of anything. It’s just data.

Let’s say for a moment that we do have something in our skies. Whatever that something could be, if it’s real then we all might have to deal with it over our own skies and every video or picture shared might not be helpful but what if one or two were ?

What if we all trusted the other people here to file that information away as they see fit stop demanding the poster to prove anything simply because they wanted to share something here.

It would also be cool if people could speculate here. Maybe even wildly. I’ve seen no hysterics. I think we’re all managing fine. It’s not like we all have people to talk about this with in our day to day life. So let’s allow people this place on Reddit to serve as the place it was intended for. And if these videos are too much for you, I’d recommend taking a break till you feel better.

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/BaconReceptacle on 2024-12-26 19:58:08.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/ggk1 on 2024-12-26 19:49:17.

People talk about how bad the quality is.

Tech has gotten so affordable- I’m assuming there’s some sort of purpose built rig for this type of thing that would be not that terribly priced, so what would be the best thing for people to get if they wanted to capture lights in the night sky?

How about at different price ranges? Where does the line start pricing wise that would outperform a new smart phone for night video of lights in the sky?

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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Sea_Possibility_4966 on 2024-12-26 19:45:48.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Orbseer-333-CE5 on 2024-12-26 19:38:06.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/Icy-Entertainment806 on 2024-12-26 19:23:49.
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The original post: /r/ufos by /u/BusinessNo2064 on 2024-12-26 18:18:45.

Before the Trolls shred this apart- This is my theory:

The masses won't care unless...

They offer us something that we feel in our individual lives.

If they're just floating up there, no one cares.

If they're observing us and collecting information, we won't care.

If they want to give our governments some information about how to control us better, we won't care.

If they're stopping our nukes, we won't care.

The only way we will care is if they individually alter our lives. That's what the whole UFO/ORB scenario in the sky is showing us right now.

No one cares that much.

The guys who call themselves Ufologists are talking about a major disclosure in January. If that disclosure is video proof that our government has been lying to us about aliens no one will care. If it's video proof of some alien bodies, no one will believe it. Disclosure isn't a big deal without tangible changes felt down here.

People will care once they don't have to pay taxes and their debt is forgiven. They will care once bread costs $1. Even then they will only passively care.

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