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Drag is trans, and uses person-independent neopronouns. These can be confusing for some people. But drag is patient, and with the vast majority of people is not pushy with drag's pronouns at all. In return, the vast majority of people tend to take no issue with drag. However, some people decide to invent a problem because they see drag using drag's pronouns, and it makes them angry.

Drag has a problem with one of these people, a pawb.social user called Draconic_NEO. Drag would normally just send a report, and drag is in the process of doing that, but the level of harassment has elevated to abuse of mod powers, and drag feels the need to inform the pawb.social admins of this user, as well as giving full context to the issue.

A week ago, drag created a thread on the db0 instance regarding a wrongful ban. Here is the context of drag's comments which lead to the ban:

Drag has used HTML to restore the deleted comments in the thread to save you time checking the modlog. As you can see, someone insults drag for drag's style of talking, and drag merely explains what is going on. Some people are unfamiliar with first person neopronouns, and drag patiently explains. The first removed comment is actually drag answering a direct question from another user. A moderator of the community decided that a trans person explaining their pronouns is rulebreaking behaviour, and drag posted about it on db0's "power tripping bastards" community. Drag didn't choose the name of that community, it's just the only place to complain about bad mod decisions.

Here is Draconic_NEO's take on the original ban:

Please understand that drag did not pivot the conversation to dragself, or display any aggression in the thread. Someone insulted drag for using neopronouns, and drag patiently explained. Draconic_NEO is, in this comment, inventing a narrative that a trans person's pronouns are an attack on others for the sake of attention-seeking. This is a transphobic cliche. The complaint that drag's use of neopronouns somehow makes drag similar to some troll is... nonsense? Drag doesn't get it, but it seems to be a core part of Draconic_NEO's argument that someone else was apparently a neopronoun user in the past, and now everyone else has a license to hate neopronoun users.

And here is Draconic_NEO in the same thread, attacking the entire concept of nounself pronouns. Here are some resources on nounself pronouns, which are an established part of queer culture and what drag's pronouns would probably fall under:

https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Nounself_pronouns
https://pronoun.fandom.com/wiki/Nounself_Pronouns
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/nounself-pronoun
https://edition.cnn.com/us/neopronouns-explained-xe-xyr-wellness-cec/index.html

For someone who uses the nounself pronoun “leaf,” that may look like: “I hope leaf knows how proud we are that leaf is getting to know leafself better!” or “Leaf arrived at the coffee shop before me; I was mortified to have been late to meet leaf.”

As you can see, nounself pronouns are prominent enough in the queer culture to be referenced on CNN and even dictionary.com. Attacks on the idea of nounself pronouns are, in a word, transphobic.

Drag will stop posting excerpts from the thread here, because the reason this post isn't just a report, is that drag can't report all of Draconic_NEO's harassment.

All four of these communities are moderated by Draconic_NEO, with nobody above them but the admins to tell: Drag has never posted or commented on or even seen these communities before. Drag didn't know they existed. Lemmy UI doesn't even have a button to do that. You have to manually make an HTTP request yourself in order to do it. This took effort, this took work. And the only possible reason to do it, is to create a record across all of Lemmy of a single user's grievances that anyone will see when they search that particular user.

And it's already happened. People look at modlogs, and they trust moderaters. The barrier to entry to becoming moderator of a dozen no-name communities is zero, but the authority of being able to create a permanent record on which to tell whatever lies you like and be believed by many people, is powerful. And drag can't report these modlog decisions to the admins. Drag can't reason with somebody who has a basic hostility towards trans people who use nounself pronouns, and who invents stories about imagined violence by trans people.

Transphobia is against the rules on pawb.social. Harassment is against the rules. Spreading misinformation is against the rules. Drag wants all of this to stop, please.

When I replied to a comment, nothing seemed to happen except a 502 error with a flash banner in the corner that said "toastify is awesome". Assuming the comment didn't get posted, I tried again and had the same result. Refreshing the page showed all attempts at posting the comment were successful. This was on the standard desktop interface. @[email protected]

Just thought I would mention over here that Wander just announced the termination/archival of yiffit at the end of the year. I guess this will no longer be my backup account.

Kind of falls under the 'Too Afraid to Ask' category, I guess, but I've been curious about this for a while. Did something actually happen at some point, or was this just a procedural thing that wasn't ever followed up on?

It's mildly annoying given how large they are.

Edit: It's possible that this isn't a federation problem at all (as discussion is bringing to light) but something else entirely. Regardless, though, something is going on.

It's also possible that the site I link below is out of date, so maybe don't take that as gospel. I bookmarked it a year ago and just hit it up to check on this a few minutes before posting, so I haven't been keeping up with it.

Doing a little more digging in light of the above, it's possible this is related to this issue, and there's just an extremely long delay before we get content from lemmy.world. Weirdly, though, it doesn't seem to be the case with other instances - maybe because of their size? Either way, looking at the same posts on our instance and 3 or 4 others, we seem to be the only ones not getting the replies. So something's fucked, maybe.

If you're on lemmy.world and happen to see this, drop a reply in here, maybe - I'd be curious to see how long it takes for us to see it (or if we can at all).

I recently saw a couple posts on techtakes and holy shit their members are, well, awful. Is this some kinda metajoke or running gag? Their members tend to have positive comment scores despite being massive assholes. That seems out of character for Lemmy which is why I'm confused and wondering if there's some kinda running gag I missed.

Is anycritter else unable to stay logged in? Every new page I go to (a post, a community, a user) shows me logged out. I can log back in, but only for that page.

If it's on my end, advice would be nice ':3
Thankies squeek 🐭

Edit: Switching to Floorp seems to have fixed it 😅 Idunno if it's specific to this browser or I had some specific issue with how I had Firefox configured ooorrrr 🤷 That squeaked, apparently the adminicritters around here are updating to a fresh Lemmy version that deals with this issue. Neat! :3

One of many chat communities around lemmy but this one is furry. alright its mainly random thoughts and question of mine currently, but you are welcome to change that.
[email protected] Seeing some new faces would be welcome.

Hey! I was thinking now.... As I have some stuff to keep posting and I don't see that big posting activity in furry community I don't want to flood the timeline with my stuff. Would you recommend me a prudential time between posts?

Oh my! I have forgotten Lemmy for a while, I'm sorry 😅

I just wiped my laptop and all config info with it. I've made some new stuff, it is not "fresh from the pen" but I hope you guys like them. I'll start posting some tomorrow.

Thought I should do a quick introduction of myself.

I'm Alyx, but you can call me Ashcat. It's an old slang term from the steam engine era from the time to talk about the person that put the coals into the engine itself.

I'm from around Pittsburgh, been to anthrcon and wpafa. i'm trans and disabled.

I'm bluesky, mastodon, matrix, and reddit as well as cohost. will gladly give links out if asked.

Hiya guys im new to lemmy (and never used reddit •-•) can anyone help me get accustomed to this platform? :3~

Hello there,

I'm Kat. I'm new to this lemmy thing but I am on mastodon (@[email protected] ) and I am newly on reddit but am familiar with it.

I look forward to interacting with everyone.

Hi guys, I've got a Bluesky code to give away, and I figured some of you guys would like it. Just a few requirements:

• You must have been a member of pawb.social for at least two weeks.
• You must have commented or posted on something in pawb.social in the past two weeks. Doesn't matter if you're doing so after this post either, though hopefully you'll keep being active.
• To be entered, you need to reply to this post (which will not count toward the past two weeks' activity requirement).

I'll be randomly picking someone after 48 hours, and I'll likely delete this post after another 24. Best of luck!

Edit: It's been 48 hours, and of the 3 people who commented, only one actually didn't have Bluesky already, so DraconicNeo has been sent the code. I have to say the response has been surprising. I offered a free giveaway, and got the post downvoted to hell and nothing but negativity for it. I absolutely won't be repeating this again. Screw deletion, I'd just as soon leave this up so the next person doesn't try to make my mistake.

Any chance we'll get one of the newer Lemmy versions? We're a couple versions behind and the bugged-up comments are kinda annoying. Dunno if an update schedule or something is mentioned anywhere.

Might help with the problem I was previously talking about here. They would need to have a user account created on pawb.social in order to start subscribing, and we could probably add some of our communities on it so smaller servers can find us. This seems like one of the only real ways of countering instance isolation with Lemmy's design.

I'm so new to lemmy lol.

One of the main problems with Lemmy on a small instance in my experience is that you can only see communities that other members of the instance have subscribed to. However, other members of the instance will never be able to evaluate any new communities to potentially subscribe to without going way out of their way to find them by fully navigating to other instances, or by using something like Lemmy Explorer, both of which require intentional effort and are not very efficient.

Is there a good way to break this cyclical stagnation? As far as I understand, Lemmy Community Seeder can be run on a schedule to take the top communities from the past 24h from the larger instances, which will help naturally seed bigger communities onto this instance. Any other ideas for how to help counteract this problem?

I was thinking of marking an account and start using Matrix, but I wanted to see if there were any plans for a pawb social server in the future. I don't mind waiting a bit if it is in the pipeline but if it's a definitive no, then I know to research the other servers/admins. Thanks for providing this amazing space! I just want to see it grow!

So since I joined this Lemmy journey, I've started looking at other options and found Pixelfed. Does anyone here use it? How is the service? And can you link with Lemmy?

I saw it also uses the activitypub protocol, so I'm just trying to see how far this protocol reaches.

Saw this on https://ttrpg.network , who are serving it under https://old.ttrpg.network . Figured I'd signal boost it here in case it's of interest to anyone.

Seems to live at https://github.com/rystaf/mlmym , and if you log in it has full access to your account, so stay safe.

I know that taking the instance offline isn’t an easy decision but it was the right choice to make until the exploit was patched.

For those who weren’t aware, from my understanding there was an exploit with custom emoji on the Lemmy front end that allowed a malicious script to be ran, which was stealing login cookies. This started on Lemmy(dot)world.

This seemed to have been patched this morning.

From what I’ve seen it didn’t seem to propagate through federated comments but never can be too careful.

Thanks crash and admin/mod team for keeping us safe 🙂

As a followup to the Beehaw question Yote.zip had yesterday, are there any instances that have currently banned us after we got unbanned from Beehaw? I know the other major furry instance has gotten itself banned from at least one major instance, but I'm unsure how in good standing we currently are.

Noticed I haven't seen any Beehaw posts recently, and then saw that we are on Beehaw's instance banlist. Anyone know what informed that decision?

We're not open signups and we don't even host any mildly-questionable content.