I’ll hold my suspense until it’s not cost effective to support Israel. What does the Capital say?
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I expect they will support Israel unconditionally. They are our only strong ally in the region, giving us strength to operate in the region. I imagine that strategic advantage is more important to the White House than either the Israelis or the Palestinians are.
strategic advantage is more important to the White House than either the Israelis or the Palestinians are
This and always this, of every state, in every situation.
But of course, we may convince them to not invade Gaza, as that might just ignite this into something much more bloodier, so they’ll probably stick to bombings and call it good enough.
For better or for worse.
Err, idk they seem more like an albatross. Most of the hate we get there is because we support that genocide. Id say having Israel as an ally is the reason we have the enemy's we have there. Also how fucked up is it that 9/11 was primarily inspired by US support of Israel and they afaik, never assisted in any military shit there. All we get is "intelligence" from some chronic liars. Been trying to find concrete shit theyve done to help and cant find any.
Good!
There’s a mutiny brewing inside me too.
Eww 😷 Have an upvote.
Did The Resistance during the Trump administration ever actually do anything or was it just hot air?
Ryan Cooper, 2018: The fake resistance inside the Trump administration
What a crock.
If there were real organized resistance to Trump within the administration or the Republican Party more broadly, these people would be doing dramatically more than they are. If they really believe Trump is a danger to the nation and world — and he is — it should hardly be a mystery what to do about it.
tl;dr:
- Get rid of Trump — before the 2020 election
- Quit and join the opposition
- Undermine him from the inside
Anybody know if there’s some sort of conscientious objector clause for the State Department?
On one hand, anybody working for the DoS is acting in an official government capacity. That is to say it’s not about an individual’s thoughts or feelings - anybody in the job is supposed to be acting in the interests of the United States. It doesn’t really matter if you don’t like what you do. It might matter if you’re morally opposed to your tasking, but the solution to that is usually to bring it up and have somebody else to the work.
On the other hand, the United States government, and DoS by extension, is supposed to work for the people. Here, the DoS should be taking a stance that works in the best interests of the country and its citizens. If popular opinion says that there’s a misalignment, then we need a way to fix the issues so that the organization can run in a manner consistent with the people chartering it. I’m not sure individual employees are the right people to take on this role, as there’s no consistent way to act across an organization like this.
I’m not an expert here, but I can see reasonable arguments on both sides of this
Yes, it’s called tendering your resignation.
That’s already happening.
Any interest in having a discussion on alternative methods to address dissent?
It’s kind of shitty for the only solution to be to walk away. That can leave apathetic or otherwise undesirable people left in positions that are still important for society.
There’s a very good primer on this topic, written almost 80 years ago by the precursor to the CIA: Simple Sabotage Field Manual by Office of Strategic Services