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A survey in the Netherlands revealed that 31% of Tesla owners are considering selling their cars due to Elon Musk’s controversial actions, including his involvement in politics and handling of misinformation on X (formerly Twitter).

About 40% feel embarrassed to own a Tesla, though 51% say Musk’s behavior doesn’t affect their view of the car.

Musk’s leadership of X has also driven users away, with 46% leaving or considering leaving the platform.

Parallel criticism of Mark Zuckerberg for removing fact-checking has fueled similar debates over tech leadership and misinformation.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I've been perfectly happy with my Tesla, if you just look at the car. When i first got it for years ago, it was a real source of joy to me. Now all the joy has been sucked out of it by Musk's assholery. I want to get rid of it sooner rather than later. Right now there isn't really anything in the market that could replace it, but as soon as there is, I'll jump.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Take a look at Hyundai. They have a similar range and comfort packages, and even use the Tesla chargers now.

It's probably what my car will be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I have some hopes for the Kia EV4, but that's not out yet.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

so true. I too long for an alternative car that features a fart button and a voice changing megaphone and who the fuck knows what else.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Just don't buy another one. You're just funding fascism at that point.

Why isn't there anything else on the market to replace it? Price?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Doesn't Capitalism dictate that with this much resentment for Tesla another product to compete with it should appear if not many products to compete with it?

Where are they? Where they capitalism? Do your ducking job capitalism! Or duck right the hell out of there

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's a combination of price, not being forced to purchase through a dealership, and access to the vastly superior supercharger network.

That dynamic should begin to shift in a few years, with the dealership model being the most sticky. Hopefully the used market will come along.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The not buying through dealership sounds like a "nice to have" thing.

Dont most of the new EVs have access to the supercharger network at this point?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Dont most of the new EVs have access to the supercharger network at this point?

In the last several months, yes. However, that doesn’t mean the cables at the charging stations are long enough to accommodate non-Teslas. So you wind up with someone blocking 2-4 stalls with 1 car to try and charge.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Note that the supercharger network is broadly available.

Also note that using the network means similarly sending your money to musk.

I have a mustang Mach e and the adapter to plug into supercharger network. Though I've never used any DC fast charging at all.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

This is my plan. I figure I have at least 5 more good years with my Tesla. By then there will be plenty of alternate EV options available. I’ll definitely be one and done with Tesla.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (9 children)

At the end of the day, they are terrible cars. Teslas have the highest rate of of malfunction and low mileage service of any manufacturer in the US by far.

They are beating Ford at their own game!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago

From my personal observations and conversations with people in the Netherlands this seems about right, and I'd say the 51% are mostly going to be more in the "don't care" camp, with a tiny portion maybe having a positive view of Elon/maga, we do have right wingers here too even if they're different.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is this the new "maga supporters are thinking of not supporting trump" headline for the next ten years?

Sell it or don't sell it. Who cares? 🥱

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I don't know what the CEO of most companies I buy from is like. I don't know how many of them were friends with Epstein or deny the Holocaust or want slavery to be legal, and I fear if I did know, it would be very difficult to maintain all the boycotts. That and Teslas have some wicked acceleration so I don't blame people for having them. Unless it's a cybertruck, those things are ugly af

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Teslas also have some horrific privacy/ownership issues, sub-par build quality, and have regularly locked people inside during fires. They also have shitty door handles that ice over in winter, use software updates as a crutch, and Elon Musk makes other vehicle manufacturer CEOs look like saints.

Also, you don’t need to buy from all of them. Subaru is a real company that doesn’t do horrific things and actually has proven that they’re honest when they say that infinite growth is not something they chase.

If the reason you’re afraid to know is because you want to buy stuff and feel good then you have a bigger problem. It’s ok not to know but to essentially refuse to know?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Only 3 in 10. Give it another year and that number will be up

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You sure about that? Look who's being inaugurated tomorrow. I have zero faith in the American people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This survey was conducted in the Netherlands, but yes, faith in Americans in the toilet.

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