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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I’ve had nothing but issues administrating Office 365. A price hike like this is incentivizing me to push other products like Google workspace.

Nice parts are definitely user email tools and some of the audit tools, but I keep finding myself in scenarios where I get error 500s on the server side when I pop open dev tools and it’s like I don’t want to tell my users that they’re SOL but they sort of are if I can’t resolve some error on Microsoft’s o365 servers. Microsoft likes to ask what I did to fix the case if I fix it before they do and I just laugh and not rely to those. They can pay me extra for that or hire me if they want that info.

[–] [email protected] 146 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I spent about 20 minutes today trying to get Copilot on Word to tell me how to disable Copilot on Word. Worth every penny.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago

The clippy we all deserved

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 days ago (6 children)

I really wonder what their long term plan is here.

Hardly anyone really wants copilot, it doesn't add a lot of value, yet makes the product less competitive.

I totally get rent seeking, Office is so ingrained that it's almost impossible to get away from it. But why force AI on everybody? Why not add it as a bonus?

Is this just a desperate attempt to soften the massive losses of the AI investment?

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

To please the shareholders. Then, when AI is no longer deemed valuable and its tremendous costs sink in, they will remove it and layoff the teams that worked on it, to please the shareholders.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, smart people: I sure do love Libre Office.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

OnlyOffice for those feeling that Office style itch.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (16 children)

Libre Office.

Honestly - and flame away - I hate the name. I hate saying it. It's the 'moist' of borrowed words. Leeeeeeeebr. And I'm a Canadian who did French up to university-level conversational "explain something for 20 min" French (from a gorgeous caribbean dynamo teacher, but I justif--uh, digress) so I know how to say the word and what it means.

And I still hate it. I'm a horrible person -- even before I continued French study because the prof was so engaging and energetic and brightened every room and every day and made French interesting just on inclusion.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Oh shit maybe we'll see someone companies switch to an alternative instead of paying microshit more money

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah. So it's

  1. thunderbird
  2. some add-on

right? I forget the name of that add-on.

No, that's not it. I thought it was Open-Xchange; yeah, that's it. But it's only web-based, and not Tbird-based. Let's ask Co-pilot again:

THERE it is.

But I learned there's a second alternative, so that's cool. See? Co-pilot has value!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

is there a thunderbird equivalent that looks like it was made after 1992?

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)

For existing customers, the price hike won't be kicking in until plan renewal, and there are options to downgrade the plan. Those who want to avoid using AI can downgrade the plan to the "Classic" or "Basic" Microsoft 365 plans.

Thankfully we can roll back to the "Classic Family Plan" without the AI features. But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back. If I didn't see this article I'd be up for a big price hike when it renewed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago

But annoying that they automatically switched plans and I had to switch back.

Should be illegal.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Everyone experiencing this should be thinking "man, I gotta ditch Microsoft before they try to fuck me again"

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is like adding ESPN to the live TV package.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"You remember that llm we spend billions of dollars on, that nobody asked for? Well we're done half baking it into all our apps and now we're almost doubling our prices to help pay for it all."

The logic of the utterly deranged...

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

You can call the sales team and ask them to change your subscription to the classic version to opt-out of Copilot and get the old price back, if you still need the subscription over changing to other open source office suites.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 days ago (27 children)
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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck the MS suite is such garbage. My work was sold in for Teams with all the BS. Now I have to either map up the filepath creating what we used to have, or I can't see the file folder and make a call at the same time. Onenote with it's arbitrary syncing. And good luck finding it again since it stored at some random place if you loose access.

Word and excel is decent, but for a person who likes to tinker with versions it's a nightmare to invite people to edit it.

Cluncky interface, slow and bloated all around

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago

The degree to which MS Teams can get fucked by the horse it rode in on is proportional to the number of registry entries their bloatware has on first install.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

apparently super easy to get it forever free

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