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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 hours ago

Remember that "Grapes of Wrath" completely backfired as a propaganda piece because Russians were amazed that poor Americans could still afford cars

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

So total brain rot absolutely everywhere?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I always thought social credit thing is just in memes

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 hours ago (13 children)

Wait, China's not a dystopian nightmare?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

I imagine it could be if you were a minority or a political dissident.

The fact that so many people went through sexual and gender self discovery on Tiktock, but such things are discouraged by the government in China says a lot that makes me uncomfortable.

Not being able to openly criticise the government and its policies also doesn't sit well with me.

It's not my government though, so that's where my criticism ends. If that's what the majority of people want, that's just democracy by another avenue. So long as people are allowed to leave if they choose, then that's fine.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well tbf, even though it's strictly banned in China there are still some cases of it happening in rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

But in the US it's legal. In a bunch of states all you need is parental consent for a teen barely out of puberty to marry an adult, and some will lower the age if the child is already pregnant.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

People are people no matter where they live, which also means you can't trust any government anywhere. Propaganda is powerful.

The idea of a social credit score has always been hilarious to me, like yo bros we have credit scores over here and they legitimately fuck us over since you need good credit to do alot of things like renting a place to live.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Well the social credit system had pilot cities. Apparently it failed. Also China had (apparently millions of) people banned from e.g. flying due to social misdeeds (seemingly unrelated to the social credit system)

The social credit system like depicted in western memes was of course non sense. And e.g. America has put people on no-fly lists too.

But comparing social credit with financial credit, wild. And yes, especially the American financial credit score is a joke and a scam and should be banned. But that comparison is just wild.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

wow the level of cope in this thread (thankfully not that many tho) arguing over stats - which are probably made up anyway.

some people can't handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

Yes exactly. There are lots of internet weirdos trying to spread culture war nonsense, but if you actually go outside every once in a while, you realize that most people just aren't like that. I work in a restaurant that has a lot of ukrainian and russian visitors (migrants). At one point, a large group of russians came in for a birthday party, and they asked the owner to put on a playlist of russian music. Like, really cheesy russian pop. After some time, a girl from a smaller table of ukrainians calls me over and complains about the music. I relay it to the owner, and he asks them what they would rather listen to instead. They tell him, and he adds their songs on the queue. The rest of the evening was spent playing and dancing to russian and ukrainian and armenian songs (the owner is armenian, and there were some armenian guests too) and the atmosphere was just generally very chill. Not a single fuck was given about politics that evening.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

picture 2: not real and technically imposible to do that cause we have 1.4 billion people

This makes me imagine how social credit score department people hands look like if social credit score is real

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Don't they have computers and mass surveillance?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Big data n shiet

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 hours ago

Just that no one claimed that they would have a social credit system surveiling 1.4 billion people.

It was an experimental system in some pilot cities in, of course, a limited scope.

So it was real, in some city in some scope.

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