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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I am partial to the windshield projection style. It is truly fantastic for keeping your eyes on the road while seeing your speed

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm dying for good windshield HUDs

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Volkswagen has a pretty awesome one but it costs like 10k more for that level of trim.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Even worse, then you have to drive a Volkswagen

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The two-tiered cluster of my Civic really grew on me. The speedometer is up really high so it's almost always in your line of sight.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh my SIL had one of those for a while, it looked pretty nice.

Our Mazda projects the speed, cruise control status, and icons for vehicles next to us on the windshield. It really is very nice - one of the few things about that car that I actually like.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I get having a digital cluster, because you can display way more information than using analog gauges.

Put it in front of the driver.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, make the text bigger.

So many displays have tiny, hard to read text that could easily be twice as tall and wide without even impacting the blank space that separates them.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

No idea what that bottom driver is doing, but it indeed does not spark joy

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lmao, high beams, no seatbelt at 108kph for a 30kph speed limit. Ooof.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Freebird is playing, let my man cook!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, sparks a whole lot of emotions, but joy is not among them.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

It’s a screenshot from MKBHD’s latest video.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

GIF of angry Miracle Machine from the Weird Al - Albuquerque animation

I. HATE. TOUCHSCREENS!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I guess I'm in the minority: I prefer to see my speed as a number instead of a dial.

Yes, it does need to be in front of the driver.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Chevy 15-seaters from 2012+ you can turn the status screen on the dash and display numerical rpms. They are a bit slow to update but it’s kinda cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

An advantage of a proper dial is that you can instinctively see the change in speed by how quickly the needle moves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Different people have different considerations.

When I've rented vehicles with a digital speedometer I haven't felt like I'm missing anything without a dial. I haven't found myself in situations where the movement of the needle helps me.

When I get into rental cars with a dial, I feel like I need to watch it closely because I'm not familiar with where the ticks are. It doesn't work for me at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I have absolutely felt like I am missing something when I don't have a dial, I like having a tool get a general idea of how fast my speed it changing, rather than having to focus on a number to see how fast that is changing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Also, range. You don't even need numbers on the RPM dial to know it pointing past 12-o-clock is not good.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Renault have been doing this for ages. I had a 2009 Mégane which gave the speed as a digital number. Fuel and oil temps were bars to either side. Revs was a physical dial.

It was such a great car, just a shame about the engineering...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Before I bought a new car, I assumed digital speedometers would be available as a setting, not apparently not.

It's the kind of thing that I didn't realize I wanted until I had to deal with the alternative.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago (2 children)

108 in a 30. Someone speeding that much has no time for a ticket.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Someone speeding that much won't be having much time left in general.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Marques Brownlee?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't understand how anyone can buy a Tesla. The lack of a dashboard + the only interface being a tablet alone are a deal breaker for me.

You're being sold a feature that is really just massive cost cuttings playing impostor as a luxury feature at a premium with 100x worse usability.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If dial gauges weren't what you chuckleheads grew up with (I'm 38 so I understand the nostalgia) you'd realize they aren't really all that well designed. There's no reason they go as high as they do, especially when they were "capped" at 85, and they display a terrible amount of information for the amount of space they take up.

I dislike many digital dashboards, not because they don't interface well or they don't look good, but because I can't customize them to my own liking. I want my average speed, instantaneous speed, average miles per gallon, instantaneous miles per gallon, range, engine temperature, music track, outside temperature, inside temperature, tire pressure, time, vehicle orientation, all at once. They're normally all available, but hidden in different menus and screens. Put it all out there, I'll learn where to look for the info I want. And let people who desire less info have the ability to set up their dashboard for that as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If dial gauges weren't what you chuckleheads grew up with (I'm 38 so I understand the nostalgia) you'd realize they aren't really all that well designed.

That's not actually true, studies show that analog dials (or digital imitations) are better than regular numbers or bars as speed displays.

The thing about analog dials is that they offer a lower mental load than a simple number. Seeing the dial move is a better indication of speed change than a number changing, and the "wasted" space in the dial offers a comparative idea of how fast you're going.

The human brain is just much better at perceiving relative changes than absolute ones. Seeing a 20 rise to 80 doesn't convey as much info as seeing a dial in the bottom rise to the middle.

I want my average speed, instantaneous speed, average miles per gallon, instantaneous miles per gallon, range, engine temperature, music track, outside temperature, inside temperature, tire pressure, time, vehicle orientation, all at once. They're normally all available, but hidden in different menus and screens.

The reason this information isn't readily available is probably because putting more information only serves to increase the mental load on the driver which might cause distractions, and consequently, more accidents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah i have a background in human factors engineering and something like that is just asking for unsafe driving. If it can wait until you aren't driving then all you should see of it is a little notification telling you fo check it when needed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 days ago (11 children)

A dial gauge can impart certain information that other ways cannot. I can notice a sudden change in movement without looking directly down, or see certain patterns of movement that simple numbers won't. An old example of the loss of that was found in some classic luxury cars (my grandmother had a Cadillac that I noticed it in). The speedometer wasn't a dial, it was an analog bar that would go right to left as your speed increased. It was very hard to judge change of speed by this, much like it's hard to see from a few digital numbers that rapidly change. I've also noticed that even digital dial gauges can suffer from this if their refresh isn't fast enough to simulate an analog accurately.

Doesn't mean you can't get used to a display or find other ways to get the same input, but dials aren't just old nostalgia, they do have advantages. I would bet for some measurements an analog multimeter is preferred over a digital, and vise versa.

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