Privacy
A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.
Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.
Some Rules
- Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
- Don't promote proprietary software
- Try to keep things on topic
- If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
- Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
- Be nice :)
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I'm currently on Tuta, because I can't imagine Mail without a free tier. It's run out of Germany(EU). Its 3โฌ a month for the normal tier, free takes away most features. Like Proton, you need to use their (OSS)-Client, for encryption reasons. It's currently growing and I hope they don't go crazy anytime soon.
I was looking at Posteo, but I don't want my entire internet identity to be gone, if I ever can't pay for it.
Fair point
I know Google just donated to Trump's inauguration, and also does all the stupid surveillance capitalism crap that Google does, but I just compared prices, and Google Workspace is a few dollars per month cheaper per user than Proton is, for my needs (family, custom domain names, etc)
We've been on Proton for a few years, and it's fine, but we do also have Pixel Android phones, and not using Google services constantly feels like swimming upstream, plus all family members also still end up having to use Google services for work, anyway
It's just not practical for me to de-Google, which is a shame, so I think I'll be switching in a few months, unless pricing changes significantly :S
I've said it in another thread: German users should consider posteo as a green, safe, and affordable (1โฌ/M) alternative. https://posteo.de/de
I use and like posteo but their refusal to allow custom domain names, for in my opinion dubious reasons, should not go unmentioned.
Never used it. Is there a reason why you mention German users, in specific?
No, anyone can use it, payed plans only though (1โฌ p month min)
It's not limited to German users, but those might be especially inclined since it's a Berlin-based company ๐
I would actually argue that for privacy reasons when choosing an email provider you should go for one outside of the country you live in, even better go for one in a country that wouldn't comply with your country's court requests for data.
Edit: ac corrected actually to factually lol
Wouldn't a provider that doesn't comply with my country, instead comply with a lot more shady entities requests?
Shady entities outside your own country maybe. But shouldn't you be more worried about the ones in your own country?
I see, thank you!
Remember when businesses stayed the fuck out of politics so they didn't alienate their customers because they like money? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
So literally one guy can change your entire network lifestyle?
I am trying to understand this too... I don't care about the CEO's personal opinions, so long as Proton provide the service they promised.
I'd be happy if someone would ELI5 as to why I'm wrong, I'm too lazy to switch otherwise.
If yhe person running the show shows poor judgment in whose company they keep, where else have they had poor judgement?
Thank fuck I didn't get that subscription, I was looking into getting a secure mail service. I engaged with people calling proton a CIA honeypot, investigating what was up with the rumors and I was about to jump into bed with proton.
Damn dude. I swear I can't wait for AI to program everything so I don't have to keep track of the shitty things people do because we are a shit species.