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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, building a mail server isn't that hard if you aren't afraid of the command line.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

True, but what you should really be afraid of these days are spam filters and hackers. As much as I'd love to selfhost my own mail server, IMHO it's just not worth the risk of important emails getting flagged as spam (both outgoing and incoming), or losing control of accounts due to a zero day attack or other means. The latter might sound far-fetched but I just saw it happen firsthand to a friend. The modern internet is a battleground!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Must be talking about a dwarf Trump pays to wipe his ass.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 hours ago

Why can't we have nice things?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck me, I now feel like a clown for taking advantage of that lifetime subscription I bought a couple of months back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

well at least they won't get any money for it

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

well this makes me slightly less fomo'd after going for tuta and mullvad- but i'm probably jinxing it rn ;-;

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

People somehow still surprised by Switzerland being neutral on Naziism

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago

I don't think we can be blamed for Andy Yang. He's Taiwanese and studied in the US. It seems he just worked at CERN and that's why he was in Switzerland when he started Proton.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Is he right about the start of the anti-trust action ?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 hours ago (9 children)

I wonder what is the percentage of nuts tech ceos.

Seems to be abnormally high

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

the ruling class will always support each other to protect their own class interests. they have what we lack - class solidarity. the only path forwards, which is the path of our own liberation, is uniting the proletariat and transitioning away from capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Rich people tend not be good people in general

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Damn, this sucks. I fled Google for Proton and use it for email, files, and my own domain email.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 hours ago

if you have your own domain, then moving off of proton is very painless

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

I see a lot of good discussion here. I've been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it's a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.

Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago

You're gonna need a few books and a full time engineer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think the main difficulty is getting companies like Gmail to recognize your domain as legitimate, as they don't by default

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

By default it should be OK. The problem is if your IP was previously used by someone bad before it recycled to you.

But it you have a server for a decade and have held the IP the whole time, you should be OK if you setup your email server correctly (which you probably won't)

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