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[–] [email protected] 121 points 1 day ago (9 children)

A tolerant society can not tolerate intolerance.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (7 children)

And society != government.

The law should tolerate intolerance, outside of credible threats of violance/restrictions of others' rights. However, society shouldn't tolerate intolerance, meaning we should shut down intolerance in all privately controlled spaces, and confront intolerance in all public spaces.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

The same people with toddler brain and "it's not fair!!!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

These are platforms. It isn't censorship because they are private for-profit entities. They can host or deny any speech they want. And we can post on them or not and take our content elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Also, propaganda is not speech.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Lemmy was created because Desaulines(sp?) got "censored" on reddit. Now he famously over-censors his darling instance lemmy.ml.

My point is just that nobody really thinks it should be a free for all. Everyone is human and doesn't want to hear anything that they consider egregious, or in the case of lemmy.ml "against rule 2".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (9 children)

.ml is garbage lead by legit garbage people. But, open source means we can take lemmy code made by garbage people and repurpose it for good. Unfortunately it seems like Lemmy image is forever stained by those people and the network will never be adopted by normal people fully.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Right, but they gave everyone their own platform which can compete with .ml in the same space

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

My point is just that nobody really thinks it should be a free for all.

Don't made judgements about everybody based on one guy. I'm on an instance that doesn't defederate lemmygrad or lemmy.ml, so I commonly see utterly insane tankie takes in popular, and of course also in various comments - and yet I don't want those people to not have a platform. Because I trust just about noone to decide whether my opinions should be censored, and if that means also not censoring the opinions of people who I think are very wrong, I'm willing to take that trade.

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