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He generally shows most of the signs of the misinformation accounts:

  • Wants to repeatedly tell basically the same narrative and nothing else
  • Narrative is fundamentally false
  • Not interested in any kind of conversation or in learning that what he’s posting is backwards from the values he claims to profess

I also suspect that it’s not a coincidence that this is happening just as the Elon Musks of the world are ramping up attacks on Wikipedia, specially because it is a force for truth in the world that’s less corruptible than a lot of the others, and tends to fight back legally if someone tries to interfere with the free speech or safety of its editors.

Anyway, YSK. I reported him as misinformation, but who knows if that will lead to any result.

Edit: Number of people real salty that I’m talking about this: Lots

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (5 children)

DOWNLOAD A COPY OF WIKIPEDIA NOW. RIGHT NOW. DO NOT WAIT.

WIKIPEDIA WILL BE RUINED IN (just guessing) THREE MONTHS (I hope I’m wrong)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Can I get a TLDR. I'm on the page about downloading it, but there are so many files to download which makes me think I am looking at the wrong stuff.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I consider myself pretty savvy but I'm also at a loss. I thought and still think you can download all the text but there are so many readers there, different file types. When I finally got to some raw data it was from 2008.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 hours ago

"the page"? Do you mean kiwix?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People posting misinformation? On Lemmy? No. It can't be.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I heard the guy who wrote Lemmy ate a GMO tomato, and enjoyed it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago

I don't understand, all tomatoes have been gmo since the chemtrails started appearing in the fall of 52

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Misinformation… you mean lies?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can use true statements to spread misinformation, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

In addition to what frazorth said, you can change how a statement is interpreted by simply using a passive voice. Compare "Alice was hit by Bob" to "Bob hit Alice". Both statements are identical, but the former is a lot less accusatory towards Bob. This technique is used when reporting about Police abuse, or about how the civilians in Gaza are treated.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"I make more money than last year" when i make lwss inflation-adjusted

"we have reached record incomes" when you make more money than ever but still less than you should (i.e. your competitor went bankrupt and you failed to capture their customer-base)

It's all about the 💫Framing🌟

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Check out the NYTimes when they're not just lying... Any hegemonic media really.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You've never heard of people bending the truth?

Saying something factually correct, but misleading because parts are omitted?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

Misinformation and lies are only separated by intent.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There are major issues with wikipedia, I say this as someone with thousands of edits. But I know exactly who you are talking about and they spread pure BS.

The last time I saw them their account was called “ihatewikipedia” or “fuckwikipedia” or something like that lol and they were just spreading conspiracies. Or useless drama. Like they were going on about how wikipedia “invades your privacy”, it IP blocks people and tracks IP’s linked to editing.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

The misinfo crowd has been twiddling their collective thumbs since the election and trump winning. Can’t make up bs about egg and gas prices anymore. They’re half-ass trying to incite intergenerational conflict between X, Z, millenials, etc. Guess they found a new target. Exact same MO. Repeat the claim ad nauseam, refuse to acknowledge any contrary argument, their argument is objectively false.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

They’re half-ass trying to incite intergenerational conflict between X, Z, millenials, etc.

That's not even new.

Dismissively saying "OK boomer" has been around for several years.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The politically elite are so used to puppeteering public sentiment with ease, and so confident in their efforts to suppress education in America that they have stopped trying to be sneaky. All American ‘news’ is propaganda and the this is a blatant attempt to divide the public on one of the last free resources for factual information**. Free as in non-criminalized. These types of posts by EM are to incite division in order to amp-up for the criminalization of information. And it’s not very difficult to see.

**factual when readers uphold its integrity through critical consumption and editing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 23 hours ago

The ability to control the narrative of public discourse is one of the first things that needs to dismantled. The propaganda machine and it's made up culture war/distraction needs to go.

And the fact that it's escalated to the point of wealthy elites trying to dismantle public access to information should be deeply alarming for all of us... because then all we have for information is what they tell us.... and that's a dystopia i have no intention of experiencing.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 day ago (10 children)

On lemmy, this is far more likely to be some weird tankie shit about western propaganda. Though it is definitely noteworthy that the far right and far left seem to push a lot of the same misinformation on here.

Also, in general lemmy trolls are super easy to spot because they don't do anything else. All they do is whine about democrats or post Russian propaganda and never engage on any other topics.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Lemmy is too small to be a worthwhile target for musk-like campaigns. It's usually just people escaping their echo chambers to get their rage fix. If you're able to think for yourself, there's really no negative impact and scrolling past is a great solution.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

in a bot world no niche is too small to fill with digital garbage

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