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[–] leadore@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

But I mean, AI is the asshole, so maybe that's why they went to the front page?

[–] mogoh@lemmy.ml 33 points 14 hours ago (3 children)
[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 15 points 10 hours ago

there isnt so much incentive. No advertisement. Upvote counters behave weirdly in the fediverse (from what i can see).

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 12 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are no virtual points to earn on Lemmy. So hopefully it will resist the enshitification for while.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

I still dont see why people care about reddit karma. Its just a number?

[–] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 hours ago

Account age and karma makes an account look more legit and it's thus more useful for spreading misinformation and/or guerilla marketing.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 5 hours ago

Same reason why people play cookie clicker, watch the useless number go up.

Also, some subs are downright hostile to people with low karma.

[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Some subreddits require a minimum karma score for posting. And it gets less likely to get shadow banned the more karma you have.

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Ohhh right. I remember subs had that bullshit. I didnt know about the shadowban thing though.

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[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 18 points 16 hours ago

Most people who have worked in customer service would believe every word because they have seen the absurdity of real people.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

In the age of A/B testing and automated engagement, I have to wonder who is really getting played? The people reading the synthetically generated bullshit or the people who think they're "getting engagement" on a website full of bots and other automated forms of engagement cultivation.

How much of the content creator experience is itself gamed by the website to trick creators into thinking they're more talented, popular, and well-received than a human audience would allow and should therefore keep churning out new shit for consumption?

[–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

It's ultimately about ad money. They haven't cared it's humans or bots either. They keep paying out either way. This predates long before the LLM era. It's bizarre.

It's pretty much a case of the POSIWID. The system is meant to be genuine human engagement. What the system does is artificial at every step. Turns out its purpose is to fabricate things for bots to engage with. And this is all propped up by people who for some reason pay to keep the system running.

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 12 points 15 hours ago

Shiri’s Scissor was supposed to be a cautionary tale...

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 116 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

(Already said this before, but let me reiterate:)

Typical AITA post:

Title: AITAH for calling out my [Friend/Husband/Wife/Mom/Dad/Son/Daughter/X-In-Law] after [He/She] did [Undeniably something outrageous that anyone with an IQ above 80 should know its unacceptable to do]?

Body of post:

[5-15 paragraph infodumping that no sane person would read]

I told my friend this and they said I’m an asshole. AITAH?

Comments:

Comment 1: NTA, you are abosolutely right, you should [Divorce/Go No-Contact/Disown/Unfriend, the person] IMMEDIATELY. Don’t walk away, RUNNN!!!

Comment 2: NTA, call the police! That’s totally unacceptable!

And sometimes you get someone calling out OP… 3: Wait, didn’t OP also claim to be [Totally different age and gender and race] a few months ago? Heres the post: [Link]


🙄 C’mon, who even think any of this is real…

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Typical AITA post:

"I want to do what I want with my own life. AITA?"

Everybody Sucks Here

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Man, sometimes when I finish grabbing something I needed from Reddit, I hit the frontpage (always logged out) just out of morbid curiosity.
Every single time that r/AmIOverreacting sub is there with the most obvious "no, you're not" situation ever.

I never once seen that sub show up before the exodus. AI or not, I refuse to believe any frontpage posts from that sub are anything other than made up bullshit.

[–] smokebuddy@lemmy.today 19 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Needs to feature both a wedding and a pregnancy and you've nailed it

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

insert plot from an episode of Friends

AITAH?

[–] PineRune@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I asked my friend to help move a couch into my apartment but he got it stuck in the stairwell. AITAH?

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I feel like we're collectively writing the custom instructions for this bot.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 9 points 18 hours ago

If it's well-written enough to be entertaining, it doesn't even matter whether it's real or not. Something like it almost certainly happened to someone at some point.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Way too many...

I was born before the Internet. The Internet is always lumped into the "entertainment" part of my brain. A lot of people that have grown up knowing only the Internet think the Internet is much more "real". It's a problem.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

I've come up with a system to categorize reality in different ways:

Category 1: Thoughts inside my brain formed by logics

Category 2: Things I can directly observe via vision, hearing, or other direct sensory input

Category 3: IRL Other people's words, stories, anecdotes, in face to face conversations

Category 4: Acredited News Media, Television, Newspaper, Radio (Including Amateur Radio Conversations), Telegrams, etc...

Category 5: The General Internet

The higher the category number, means the more distant that information is, and therefore more suspicious I am.

I mean like, if a user on Reddit (or any internet fourm or social media for that matter) told me X is a valid treatment for X disease without like real evidence, I'm gonna laugh in their face (well not their face, since its a forum, but you get the idea).

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I would recommend switching categories one and two. Sometimes our thoughts are fucked.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

So here's the thing:

I sometimes though I saw a ghost moving in a dark cornet of my eyes.

I didn't see a ghost.

But then later I walk through the same place again, and also saw the same vision, but I already held the belief that ghosts dont exist, so I investigated, it turned out to be a lamp (that was off) that casted a shadow of another light source, so, when I happend to walk though the area, the shadow moved, and combined with my head turning motion, it made it appear like a ghost was there, but it was just a difference in lighting, a shadow. Not a ghost. I bet a lot of "ghosts" could be just interpreting lighting wrong and think its a ghost, not an actual ghost.

Having you thoughts/logics prioritized is important to find the truth, and not just start believing the first thing you interpret like a vision of a "ghost".

[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

You know what, that’s entirely fair.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 15 hours ago

Vision is processed in our brains

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[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 20 hours ago

I genuinely miss the 90s. I mean, yeah, early forms of internet and computers existed, but not everyone had a camera, and not everyone got absolutely bukkaked with disinformation. Not that I think everything is bad about the tech in of itself, but how we use it nowadays is just so exhausting.

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[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 80 points 22 hours ago (9 children)

Oh boy, identity mechanics to curb out the last vestiges of privacy.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

let me scan your eyeballs. it’s the only way

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago

Also doesn’t fix the problem at all, I can still just use AI to post to my main account

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're pretty much declaring a war on VPNs also

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 14 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Yep. More than half the time I can't access Reddit through Proton VPN.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

I can. But i have an account.

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder where people in the future will get their information from. What trustworthy sources of information are there? If the internet is overrun with bots, then you can't really trust anything you read there, as it could all be propaganda. What else to do, though, to get your news?

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

That's the killer app right there: the complete inability for the common person to distinguish between true and false. That's what they're going for.

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

you could try to cook up some kind of trust chain, without totally abandoning privacy.

Get a government-certified agencies minting master key tied to your id. You only get one, with trust rating tied to it.

With that master key you can generate infinite amount of sub-ids that dont identify you but show your trust rating(fuzzed).

Have a cross-network reporting system that can lower that rating for abuses like botting.

idk Im just spitballing

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What's stopping me from using my key to post ai slop?

[–] Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 14 minutes ago

The slop will be caught, your rating lowered until all your messages are simply filtered out as spam.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 40 points 22 hours ago (2 children)
[–] stardom8048@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

There are at least 37 of us. Unless a bot posted this...

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

At least I know to blame Claude.

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[–] Thrife@feddit.org 15 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Is reddit still feeding Googles LLM or was it just a one time thing? Meaning will the newest LLM generated posts feed LLMs to generate posts?

[–] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

The truly valuable data is the stuff that was created prior to LLMs, anything after this is tainted by slop. Any verifiable human data would be worth more, which is why they are simultaneously trying to erode any and all privacy

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[–] unazebra@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Maybe they're using the subreddit to try to train morality into the model?

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