this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
70 points (97.3% liked)

Transgender

179 readers
156 users here now

The Lemmy place to discuss the news and experiences of transgender people.

Rules:

  1. Keep discussions civil.

  2. Arguments against transgender rights will be removed.

  3. No bigotry is allowed - including transphobia, homophobia, speciesism, racism, sexism, classism, ableism, castism, or xenophobia.

founded 4 months ago
MODERATORS
all 23 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate this. It's fucking deplorable. Let her pee wherever she feels comfortable peeing.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 31 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate this. It’s fucking deplorable. Let her pee wherever she feels comfortable peeing.

Piss in the speakers chair.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean he's as valuable as an outhouse. So pissing all over Mike is a proper gender neutral bathroom

Makes me think McBride and supporters can afford to install luxury porta-potties very close to the places where she and the other representatives work. Sort of a malicious compliance by adding more gender neutral restrooms in response to the change.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 39 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

There was no immediate reaction from most House Democrats, including leadership

Pathetic, and frankly her going along with it is not much better.

Just disappointed

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 20 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Completely agree the silence of most House Democrats is shameful, but as for McBride, she isn't giving them the reaction they wanted. This was intended to target her specifically and create a situation where they could point at her response and go "see, the radical transgender has infiltrated government and now he's trying to invade the women's restroom!!1!!!1!!11" Using her response to pivot to economic issues and call them out for trying to distract from the same takes some of the wind out of their sails. It would be different if this legislation wasn't so blatantly targeted.

They'll still try, but it will be harder for them to play the victim here.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

The right to exist is worth fighting over and people should be pissed at her for surrendering on our behalf. Access to bathrooms is fucking important and her statement even manages to make that sound trivial.

All the 4d chess political maneuvers are a poor excuse, I remain disappointed.

[–] hangonasecond@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

Conversely, taking a stance on that single issue would rule her out of doing any other aspect of her job. You're right, it's important, but more can be achieved by going along with it. If anything, these transphobic fucks might get a reality check when they realise they're sharing a bathroom with a fucking woman.

[–] yellow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

You're right of course, but there's a certain segment of the party that's addicted to Losing With Dignity, and is afraid to fight for anything. They'll go as far as to coach you on how brilliant it is to willingly give up your rights and retreat from public existence.

[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 weeks ago

That definitely happens a lot with Democratic politicians, but I don't think that's what happened here. Because this is specifically targeted at the Capitol and House office buildings and will likely only affect McBride, backing down here is a purely symbolic retreat. It's not like she's backing down from fighting for trans rights as a whole (at least, I don't expect that she will).

[–] spider@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Pathetic, and frankly her going along with it is not much better.

Agreed, but she is a politician, and that's what politicians often do.

If the Dems ever regain majorities in the House and Senate, they should introduce bill(s) to install these in the Capitol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unisex_public_toilet

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] spider@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 weeks ago

...and take a dump on Trump's.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 32 points 4 weeks ago

The republicans aren’t going to stop there. They going to start more uneccessary drama.

[–] luce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 weeks ago

Bigots and Nazis arent Elementary School Bullies. These far-right lunatics are driven by a want to eradicate a minority from society, not a want for attention. You can't just choose to not give racists attention hoping that they will become less racist.

Ignore them, give them what they want and they will ask you for more. They will gladly compromise with you... before immediately moving the goalposts.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe she should use a urinal in front of all these bigots.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 2 points 4 weeks ago

From a distance

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I get being disappointed in her (and personally I dislike her for being a Zionist), but I can also understand. Anything she does in terms of like malicious compliance is going to reflect on every trans person. There's also conservative congresswomen who I would not even want to use the same bathroom with, because they would absolutely go out and be like, "I felt threatened," or whatever. Every one of these people has a national platform and is extremely malicious.

I would be tempted in her position to hang out in the men's room doing femme things to make everyone uncomfortable. But I can't really expect her to be comfortable doing that. I hope she understands that they are going to keep pushing, and is just picking her battles and waiting for the right optics to take a stand, though I don't expect that's the case at all.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 weeks ago

She should just defecate on her political opponents’ desks. I mean, nothing happened to the criminal trespasser who illegally entered the building in Jan 6th 2021, right?

[–] Aurora_TheFirstLight@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm wondering how they are going to enforce this

Please please make it "normal" to ask girls to show their parts this is the comedy I need

[–] serenade@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 4 weeks ago

The "normal" that I want to see are single unit, gender-neurtal bathrooms without the massive gaps between panels. If something like this happens quickly, then that cancels out all of the other bathroom bills while benefitting everyone, cis and trans.

Democracy and freedom being held hostage by the Trump regime