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[–] [email protected] 2 points 52 minutes ago

Wasn't that the point? They knew both sides would be pro Israel and sent a message that without more Palestinian support, the Dems wouldn't just get their vote.

It worked, the Dems have been nothing but shocked and aghast at the outcome. Now the pro- Palestine base are hoping the Dems turn against Israel for the 2026 election to win back their vote.

...the Dems won't, by the way. They might pay more lip service to it, but they'll never be anti-Israel.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Which part is the humor part?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It would probably be funny if it wasn't true and a fucking tragedy.

I'm so goddamned irrationally mad at everything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 58 minutes ago

Rationally. You're rationally mad at everything.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 hours ago

Democrats lost some voters because they couldn't stop sucking off fascists in israel and now they're smug because the other party who kicked their incompetent asses also suck off fascists in israel. Apparently we're supposed to laugh at anti-genocide protestors in this situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5Lttr53Vk

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

Other than this meme ridiculously implying that if only the pro-Palestine vote would have gone to Harris instead of Trump, then Harris would have won (two ridiculous claims not backed by the reality of the data): Can we please stop with that notion, that the Democrats are trying to stop what's going on in Palestine and finally see it as the US foreign policy that it is? Who has the power in that relationship? Without the US, Israel has a fraction of its weapons, billions of dollars less for their own civil programs and no shielding from international law. Don't act like the Biden administration has been genuinely trying to stop a genocide, when they:

  • are supplying weapons (Biden even circumventing congress in at least one case)
  • continuing payments
  • are spreading debunked Israeli propaganda even after they're debunked while ignoring or actively delegitimizing information to the contrary
  • actively bomb the Huthi's who attack ships headed for Israel (also with weapons)
  • vetoing or threatening to veto anything that furthers international law on that matter in the Security Council
  • diplomatically and threatingly shielding Israeli threats to the ICC and ICJ
  • actively delegitimize the ICJ and their decisions openly
  • are threatening countries with sanctions if they don't adopt outrageous laws and standards redefining anti-semitism and cracking down
  • are pressuring countries to tow the line with zionist support
  • ... (list is not extensive)

This behavior isn't new. International law didn't matter, when the US offensively brought death and destruction to Afghanistan and Iraq and as a result again in Iraq and Syria. Or when they did the same with the EU in Lybia,. Or when they supplied Saudi Arabia with weapons and support for their genocide in Yemen, and are supplying Egypt with weapons and support for their water war in Sudan, which has seen atrocity after atrocity in its wake. This isn't even an extensive list of just this century.

They aren't trying to stop it. All the public lip-service is but theater as are the negotiations. Which should become clear at the latest, when Israel assassinates their negotiating partners and then the US claims, that there is no one from the other side joining the table...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

I don't understand why anyone thought either candidate would handle it better than the other.

IMO, the Trump administration will likely make the problem worse faster than Harris would have, but regardless of who won the election, it would be impossible to prove whether my argument is true or not, so I digress.

I still have a hard time believing that anyone chose this hill to be the deciding factor and they went with Trump?

He's basically endorsing mass deportation which will likely result in the deaths of many migrants fleeing from dangerous situations. It's basically genocide on a massive scale. And that standpoint convinced anyone that he would do a better job in the Palestine conflict compared to Harris?

Now, I'm not saying Harris would have done much better, but "not much better" is still better... Not by much, but it's still better.

Oh well. Here we go again, the US is endorsing genocide. Whoopee.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago

Sure is going to be difficult to enact change when met with a regime that wants to regress. Hope that y'all who didn't vote are happy with the outcome cause I sure ain't.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 hours ago

Fuck around: do genocide, ignore your base who are apalled by genocide

Find out: lose election

If you want to keep losing, keep doing this same shit. Most liberals seem like they would rather lose than agree with online leftists.

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